We are located in Rochester, MN. I'd like to meet ex-JWs personally, that would be a welcome new experience for me.
I am paranoid, though, I got reinstated some time ago and dropped going to the meetings instantly.
Posts by rowan
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24Southern Minnesota Meetup.com group
by Abandoned inhey, i've been looking into setting up an ex-jw meetup group on meetup.com.
according to their site, there is already 29 people within one hundred miles of rochester who have signed up to the site saying they would be interested in a meetup.
the problem is it cotst either: $19.00 for one month, $45.00 for three months, or $72.00 for six months.
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Protect your assets, use a JW
by startingover insubject: excerpt from book.
"how to protect your identity and your assets" by j.j. luna.. .
although they call their church buildings "kingdom halls" we look them .
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rowan
I don't know what to make of this.
whereas the cleaning services provided by JWs to JWs were ok more or less, they wouldn't steal, but forget about privacy. I suppose that cleaning services provided by JWs to non JWs tend to produce better relationships between employer-employee.
Now, plumbing, building, painting and such stuff, at least in south america, from a JW to a JW, geeeeeeezzzzzz, what a nightmare. and they were as bad to non JWs too. I would NEVER recommed them to a non JW.
once we had a guy who was building my father's new house. He worked three hours a day 'cause he was pioneering. he had 10 mouths to feed, our country was in the middle of an economical crisis, and dad didn't have the heart to fire him. oh, but, excuse me, he was pioneering, so we had to respect and understand that. WTF???? and is it necessary to say that he and his family backstabbed us all the time? Oh , yes the hand that was feeding him and his brood was too materialistic.
lesson for me: JW workers are a no no.
sorry for venting....
Row
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I'm protected by law, hurray!
by AnonyMouse inmy mom telling me i had no rights infuriated me.
it made me feel like all my attempts at freedom were useless (well, they were...).
but the un made a thingy protecting children that a freind of mine found.
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rowan
It's great news that your mom encourages you on your education. make the most out of it.
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I'm protected by law, hurray!
by AnonyMouse inmy mom telling me i had no rights infuriated me.
it made me feel like all my attempts at freedom were useless (well, they were...).
but the un made a thingy protecting children that a freind of mine found.
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rowan
Anonymouse,
I've read your original post and can relate to what is happening to you. I could finally break free from my hard core dominating JW parents when I was 23. yes, I felt suicidal many times. but I'm here right now, free and independent. and you too, will also get there. It feels like being trapped, and I can understand your anger against your mother, but remember, she is also a victim, and is most probably behaving so outrageously against you because she thinks she doing the best for you. Just hang in there, remember it will pass. and once you are free, the sky is your limit.
It will pass. time passes quickly. in the mean time you can think of things that will help you get independant. get a particular area of interest that does not conflict with her and can help you in the future to get a job or further education. baby, you are in america. I am an immigrant (legal) here, and I can tell you: you set your limits here. there are chances. there is a future for everyone seeking it, so hang in there, it will come. just make sure to be there to embrace your destiny.
you have my empathy,
Rowan
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Girls/ ladies, were the sister`s competetive in your congs?
by dido ini don`t know about your congs, but the ones i were in became like fashion competitions between some of the sisters.
i noticed how some of them would look you up and down, very obviously, then the following week wear something identical.
i hate being the same as other people, so it used to p... me off, but i couldn`t believe how competetive they were.
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rowan
sspo, I think the problem's universal. At least it was like that in Argentina, in several congregations. and you could smell it at the circuit assemblies. I regret to admit I was part of it.
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Statistical effect of disassociating the inactive
by AuldSoul init has been tossed around several times on the forum, and invariably someone pipes up that the wts will never do it because of the adverse effects on the numbers.
there is a glaring flaw in that reasoning.. the inactive are never counted as publishers.
the numbers that are reported are of active, reporting publishers.. if they disassociate every single person who is inactive and refuses to reactivate themselves, the numbers will not be negatively affected at all.
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rowan
Should they do that, and my family gives me the ultimatum, I'll agree to go back with the condition that we study and discuss each chapter of COC.
If they still want me to go back, I can choose to get "reactivated" and be a royal pain in the butt for the elders, with the ultimate passive aggresive mode that THEY have helped me perfect during the years.
Should they dissociate me, I would become a VERY active opposer. I will not picket, but I PLAN for as many members of my community to learn about the reality of JWs, using various effective methods I have learned on this forum.
So, beware WTS. Your time with screwing with my life is over. I am in control now. I hope to live to see your demiss. And this is the feeling of thousands.
Rowan
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SITTING ON THE BACK ROW..............NO, NOT AT THE MOVIES, AT THE KH
by vitty ini know we've heard a lot of horror stories about jcs and getting disfellowshipped.........................but what is your experiences of continuing going to the meetings to be reinstated.............what did it really feel like?.
did you mind being ignored or did you understand it and take it on the chin?.................................what were your familys treatment of you during the period of having to sit on the back row????.
when i saw ppl comming in late and leaving early .....................i just knew it was wrong, wrong , wrong to treat ppl that way.. in fact i got told off for smiling at a sister who i knew genuinly wanted to come back,( the pos wife told me ) i did it out of human feelings and was then blasted.. after she got reinstated, i was the first person she came upto and introduced herself.
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rowan
JW daughter, thanks for your empathy. you're right on the spot. I have read horror stories here at the board and I know them to be true, unfortunately it took what happened to me for that to happen. My family still thinks that mine was an isolated case of mistreatment by zealot elders. don't they realize that they have been chronically "mildly" mistreated by the Borg?
and CS 100, I was one of those too, shame on me for that. It was eye opening to get to the other side of the fence. Actually, it made a better person out for me. heck, not being a JW automatically makes you a more sensitive and empathic human being.
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Did Leaving the Organization Make you Feel *Alive*?
by Mysterious indid you have moments after you left the organization when you felt alive for the first time?
when you realized that you had just been drudging around with your head down, enduring rather than living.
when that huge burden was lifted from your shoulders and you saw the world not for the place of darkness and pain that the witnesses made it out to be but for all the wonder in it?
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rowan
I felt guilt and the fear of Armagedon looming by disappear. I felt I could almost literally breathe better.
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I am so proud of my son.
by Mig inmy dil called to tell me that she, my son and the children got dress to go to the meeting last night.
they have been somewhat irregular in meeting attendance.
she has been receiving constant pressured from her sister to attend.
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rowan
Your post made my day. Another family out of the WT's claws.
congrats!!!
rowan
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rowan
[The outcome was they initally banned ALL shunning of me by anyone. The children cannot be allowed to have any contact with anyone who considers me less than an upstanding JW. I sat for three months in the County Prosecutor's Office, Police Dept., COP's desk, Atty. Gen's office, to get him charged with perjury for this. Long story short, he was charged. Charges were dropped because the State doesn't have the man-power to prosecute perjury. So that tells you what telling the truth on the stand is worth; your dignity; that's it. My ex proceeded to take the kids to a counsellor who had "nice JW family". She wrote a letter to the court. They pulled the "First Amendment" card. He got custody. My question: Where are my first amendment rights to leave a religion while not surrending my rights to be a parent? Forgot to add: I have had 6 protective orders on my ex and he plead "no contest" to stalking me. Not a nice guy to have control of your children's futures, spirituality, well-being, and ultimately, mine.] Congratulations on having a ban on them on them on shunning you! but...why the heck did that a..hole get custody of your children after all this dirt was exposed in court? oh why oh why!!!! I am jumping angry right now. I mean, in the practice they are still screwing you, aren't they? please correct me if I got something wrong, or missed an important part of the story. probably I did. i understand it feels awsome to expose them for what they they are in court, and set a legal precedent, but in real life, where YOU as an individual is involved, these JWs keep on arrogantly calling the shots and irrititating you routinely. sorry for my english. It's my second language, and I know I ramble. respectfully, rowan