Posts by sosad

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my inactive family hates that I researched why the jws are wrong

by sosad in

they don't want to hear it, they think i am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc.

i never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves.

they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not).

sosad

i know i need to move on from worrying about them - i just feel sosad for them, for what could have been and for the disconnect in any conversation i have with them. One brother went to college, despite severe (to use jw speak) persecution, now is inactive and has a young son yet he just wants to let it go and "enjoy life, play music, live - not be negative" WTF?

my mom thought i had planted anti jw info with HER non-jw mom - and called to ask me about it. I had not even spoken to her mom in months, certianly not about anything jw in concept but I have the chance to ask mom if it was true about the Book Study being axed. she was beside herself - it was days before the sunday announcment - denying that they would even consider any such change.

i ust left it and said my info must be wrong. "Yes, it is!" she said. Well, 12:15 the following sunday, I get the call - and she was dilegent to tell me that they had VERY GOOD REASONS for the change. i just said that I knew someone with jw relatives and left it - no need to gloat, be an i told you so, etc etc.

Now I find out she is calling the siblings with tales of me calling her to let her know about this change etc etc

i am feeling really, really tired

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my inactive family hates that I researched why the jws are wrong

by sosad in

they don't want to hear it, they think i am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc.

i never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves.

they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not).

sosad

thanks all for your replies!

Yes - the no man's land of some inactive ones makes it more difficult to talk to them. One of my rothrs was particularily upset about an old video I have - answers to jw's and he was positivly upset that I had it on my shelf, in my office, in my house

I can't beleive I delayed my exit out of the jws on behalf of a family that is so entrenched, and so mind controlled that they can be upset with me for doing research

the anti catholic literature on their shelves is a perfect comeback - it never ceases to amaze me the hate they have for catholics. they make my husband out to be a raving nut and- yes, he is VERY Catholic- but he never talks about it to them anymore, ever if they bring it up. any comment brands him a nut.

meanwhile, the major research they have done is reading the Da Vinci Code - a good fiction read with some historical fiction tossed in- but no ones idea of actual research

i woke up today ready to stop taking to the lot of them - and wishing i would have daed myself

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my inactive family hates that I researched why the jws are wrong

by sosad in

they don't want to hear it, they think i am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc.

i never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves.

they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not).

sosad

they don't want to hear it, they think I am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc. I never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves

they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not)

I stayed jw for years just so that they would have a big sister in their lives, and i carefully faded- for the sake of family - but they are now either dfed, inactive or in the full time service - and one is faded but could care less about the org. Parents are in - solid solid solid

they DO NOT LIKE that my husband is catholic or that I am ok with my kids being raised catholic vs jw

I am so frustrated that they could care less about the truth of the truth - and are now upset with me for believing knowledge is power. I do not talk to them about it - there is no one to talk to - but i feel so alone and isolated from a group of people I changed my life course to help, have sent money too and spent hours on the phone with

they just feel i am a bitter middle aged woman with an axe to grind

i am glad to know there are other people that just want to know

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Who to Send a Disassociation Letter To?

by WTWizard in

if i am going to send a disassociation letter, i am wondering which hounder to send it to.

i know there is no mailboxes at the kingdumb hell, so any letters that get sent there would end up dead mail.

and i know that one does not send them to the washtowel slaveholdery.

sosad

I am tempted to send a bunch signed with various names, real cong names of course and bombard the local KH's and Bethel. What would they do with thousands and thousands of DA letters turning up, signed palusible (not actual) names, from actual congregations? anyone want to join me?

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the sons of god began to notice....

by lilyflor in

nwt gen 6: 2. then the sons of the [true] god began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves namely, all whom they choose.. where did these angels get their sexual urges from?.

sosad

the ref to nephalim is/can be translated as " the men of fame, giants etc" I was surprised when I read the account out of the bible instead of out of the My Book of Bible Stories

if these were big, bad guys daddy didn't have to be a fallen angel - we have big bad guys now

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I'm new too!

by Annointeds Daughter in

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i'm new to the forum.

i've been lurking for some time, since i was "disconnected" by my husband, "tooktheredpill".

i'm a 3rd generation witness, and still inside of the borg, because all my family is inside.

sosad

thank you for posting - it gives hope to those of us with family still in - mentally

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the sons of god began to notice....

by lilyflor in

nwt gen 6: 2. then the sons of the [true] god began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves namely, all whom they choose.. where did these angels get their sexual urges from?.

sosad

I found this interesting - catholic tradition teaches that the "son's of God" were actually the offspring of Adam that worshipped God, whereas the 'son's of men" did not follow "true worship" in any form. when you think of it, it makes much more sense when you read the account. the idea of the angels coming down (no pun intended) just doesn't make sense - i haven't talked to one other member of a modern day religion that interprets it the way the jws do (big surprise)

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I had a chance to mention to my mom that I heard the bookstudy was no more

by sosad in

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and she told me that was absolutly not the case.

she laughed and said that would never happen - that they needed it and that where ever i had gotten my infomation from was absolutly wrong and that i could tell them so.

she then told me that the public talk had been shortened - and i said that i had heard that it was 15 minutes shorter - the fact that i knew that kinda threw her.. but the book study would never go.

sosad

i think peole like our mom's know in their hearts- but feel there is nothing they can do, after so may years and years and years and years...

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I was "disinvited " to my younger brothers babies shower

by sosad in

because one of the jw invitees heard i was coming and was now part of babylon the great.

just to clarify - i am part of nothing in the religious sense- my kids and husband are very catholic but i am not.. i was invited and trying to get the address after making considerable efforts to attend due to plain old busy life.. it seems "new light" says i, a fader of over 20 years is not welcome to a gathering where jws are present.

but - not just jws - there would be many other religious denominations present in the form of aunts, grandmothers, parents etc.

sosad

because one of the jw invitees heard I was coming and was now part of Babylon the Great. Just to clarify - I am part of nothing in the religious sense- my kids and husband are very Catholic but i am not.

I was invited and trying to get the address after making considerable efforts to attend due to plain old busy life.

It seems "new light" says I, a fader of over 20 years is not welcome to a gathering where jws are present. but - not just jws - there would be many other religious denominations present in the form of aunts, grandmothers, parents etc. I thought my husband should go and wear a huge crucifix, but bring the gift and tell the other Catholics why his wife wasn't around. my mom asked me not to tell anyone as it would sound terrible to "other people".

she - for the first time in my life actually - came down on my side- and didn't attend. I told her she should have - complete with pictutres of her six Catholic grand children.

but all the jws would have walked had i come in. my bro and his wife felt bad - but i had to ask them what they would do if i was at their house and said jws came over - something that COULD happen. They are adament that it wouldn't in their house, but we will see.

and to think i was just cutting up the lemon loaf!

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I had a chance to mention to my mom that I heard the bookstudy was no more

by sosad in

jw
friends

and she told me that was absolutly not the case.

she laughed and said that would never happen - that they needed it and that where ever i had gotten my infomation from was absolutly wrong and that i could tell them so.

she then told me that the public talk had been shortened - and i said that i had heard that it was 15 minutes shorter - the fact that i knew that kinda threw her.. but the book study would never go.

sosad

and she told me that was absolutly not the case. she laughed and said that would never happen - that they needed it and that where ever i had gotten my infomation from was absolutly wrong and that I could tell them so. she then told me that the Public talk had been shortened - and I said that I had heard that it was 15 minutes shorter - the fact that I knew that kinda threw her.

But the book study would never go. she was so confident and sure - so full of zeal that I just said that it didn't make sense to me either - after all it was so nice to get together in small groups, and such a great way to visit at someones home.

I wonder what she will do when the announcment is read - will she call me or let it go - and what will i say if she asks me how i knew? It was all I could do not to mention that I also knew about the "secret" watchtower