my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
Fisherman - can you please direct me to the "more current" literature?
I spoke with my parents and brother today and I am unsure at this point who is more psycotic
the good thing is that the psyciatrist want to meet with my bothers parents and my sister and I
bad news is now that he is stable he is no longer committed and is able to check out of the hospital if he wishes
my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
yes - and Catholic Confession to a Man is also "so stupid" but a jc committee is totally different!
http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/index2.html.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8222063231829676102&q=v+for+vendetta&total=10203&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3237043034856135114&q=the+best+of+v+for+vendetta&total=209&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
great movie!
i remember some studies referred to about the rates of suicide etc.
does anyone have that link?.
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I remember some studies referred to about the rates of suicide etc. Does anyone have that link?
many thanks
my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
Hi Mouthy - I remember being told similiar as a dfed teenager. My parents biggest fear was that I would die before I was reinstated - I rmember my dad telling me to be careful while driving etc.
Jw's are very dellusional about their beliefs and will lie (theocratic warfare) to make sure they are painted in the correct way. i made sure that the Psyciatrist treating my brother understood this
my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
thank you for the information - i will now be able to provide the dates of the written belief from their own publications. If I do it without comment they cannot try and manipulate their beliefs only read them. These people are insane when discussing their belief system
my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
thanks all - nathan my parents became jw in 1962- is there anything more current? I have seen references to a 1983 Question from Readers but not the entire thing
If not, thank you for your help
my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.
of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".
my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.
My understanding is that if Armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead. of course there is the standard JW caveat for that "only J can judge".
My dfed brother was committed early this morning to the Psych Ward. it took five visits to emergency and so many more appointments that i cannot list them. Wed night we had to call the police for fear he would hurt someone - the hospital released him- in a Psycotic state that same night. he almost jumped off a bridge.
He is mentally unstable, and drug use has made it worse.
last night he was crying that he wanted to be a jw- which me and my "faded" sister told him is fine if that is what he wants when he is stabalized. Most of our jw family has had little or no contact since he was dfed for the second time at 16 - he is now 26.
he is terrified of being destroyed at Armageddon - when I relayed this to my jw mom she said they DO NOT beleive this. that dfing is merely a type of discipline. i was surprised and said "oh, I didn't know this had changed". but she insisted this was never taught.
I feel nauseous at the thought of going on to their official site to search for their "official belief" - anyone have a quote?
My parents are concerned about him but they are also exhibiting the classic jw signs of "he has hit rock bottom and is coming back" glee.
I suggested to my mom that an elder should be called as he is in no state to try and "work" towards reinstatement and that a baptism at age nine should not be considered valid. she had no idea what I was even saying and was borderline hysterical that I was questioning the congregation.
They are insisting that he was unstable before he was dfed, and that no one could blame the shunning. I replied that yes, he probably was so that the dfing was like pouring peroxide on eczema- you may be trying to help but it will only get worse. They just shut down when their own logic is so faulty.
sorry for the long post, but this is going to get so much more intense, and writing it out helps.
many thanks
if so hello!
and how many of you are doing the christmas novena?
wife and i started ours on dec 16th.
i am not Catholic but my husband and three sons are. I go back and forth between wishing I could be Catholic and hating Sunday mornings
to the person who was my exfiance expressing my sympathy for his loss.
asked the hubby what he thought of me doing that and he thought it was a nice thing to do.
josie.
sorry - when i first read your post i thought you were sending condolenses re: your ex-fiance being YOUR EX - ie - that you and he did not end up bieng married. Was i the only one that thought this ?
based on him losing his spouse, your card was very appropo
