however you believe we got here the fact is - here we are!
intelligent life exists in the universe in the form of humankind.
we are often cruel, sometimes brutal, commonly mediocre but occasionally brilliant and capable of incredible love and kindness.
ballistic
There is a theory that the entire universe is god
nicolaou
god (if he exists at all) were 'created' by the universe itself.
God exists in different manner.
a) as a mathematical/logical meta-principle - see e.g. http://www.sensortime.com/jhwh-e.html
b) as a "being"
a -> can exist without a material universe b -> can exist only together with a material universe ("after the big bang")
*** know jehovah chap.
20 p. 377 land of magog no more to threaten mankind ***
the fact that jehovah leaves the bodies of those slain at the defeat of gogs attack lying exposed on the ground for birds and wild beasts to gorge themselves upon symbolizes that they will not be laid in respected memorial tombs in hope of a resurrection for them.
April 1, 1960
That`s clear: This was an April fool`s joke.... WT-studies have been very interesting, exciting and amusing in those days, compared to 2006. Oh dear me...
i was just wondering because i haven't been able to locate any ex-jws in my area.
the closest groups are a hundred or two miles away.
i'm close to myrtle beach, sc.
Carolinians, see here;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Islands
if over time the org has transformed into what it is today what do you think it will be in 10,20,50 years time considering they are a multi million/billion org will it even be a religion anymore
Fe2O3girl
it may slowly move to a "spiritual paradise" teaching, and claim that we really have been in the New System ™ since 1975, and that was what they meant all along.
Hi. Don`t laugh. Your scenario is that one with the highest probability. I will analyse and explain it in a NEW following "active topic".
don't know if any of u guys can help me out, i could swear i read somewhere that voting is a matter of consciense now, only i was having a disscussion with bro in law who says i am wrong, i'm sure i read it in the watchtower...or did i dream it??
if anyone knows what the current standing is or if there is a watchtower on it would be grateful to know ...thanks x
In some countries people are required to go to the polls. JW's go to the polls, but they don't actually vote. That's their conscience matter.
Thousands of brothers and sisters had been persecuted because they didn`t vote in the 70ies, though strong obligation - see MALAWI. All martyrdom was in vain.
how else can a person justify that jehovah will destroy 6 billion people, innocent children included?
i could never accept that i deserved salvation whereas almost no one else did.
it put me on permanent spiritual edge because i thought the slave is right so the doctrine of destruction must be, but my heart always knew it was wrong.
Fairmind
1964 Watchtower, page 49: " Unavoidably God is obliged to use violence at Armageddon.."
Nonsense. How could GOD be obliged to use violence? How could GOD be obliged to do something at all? Or: Who could induce HIM to be obliged to do something?
how else can a person justify that jehovah will destroy 6 billion people, innocent children included?
i could never accept that i deserved salvation whereas almost no one else did.
it put me on permanent spiritual edge because i thought the slave is right so the doctrine of destruction must be, but my heart always knew it was wrong.
gregor
I brought this up to a CO once when we were out in service. His reply? "Little snakes grow up to be big snakes"
An inhuman and cynical answer. Incredible. Shame on him.
how else can a person justify that jehovah will destroy 6 billion people, innocent children included?
i could never accept that i deserved salvation whereas almost no one else did.
it put me on permanent spiritual edge because i thought the slave is right so the doctrine of destruction must be, but my heart always knew it was wrong.
jwfacts
Russell said that most of mankind will survive Armageddon, whereas Rutherford changed it to only be a few JWs.
Easy.
During Rutherfords reign they began to learn mathematics, and they found, that the planet with the new society cannot nourish and bear more than about 20 billions of people. They realized, that the number of all human beings ever have been living in all 6000 years here on earth is perhaps more than 20 billions. Now, when all dead persons are resurrected at the end of the thousand years, the planet would be hopelessly overcrowded. So they changed their view. 20 billions minus 6 billions result in 14 billions. And that`s a tolerable number. Excuse my cynism, please..;-((
from the 2005 cdrom there are plenty of references to russia being the king of the north.
this starts, as far as i found, at least as early as 1960. what is more difficult to locate are articles that imply that russia is the last kofn.
if anyone has any handy please paste them.
lost_light06
flyphisher, your saying the KOTS (Anglo-American Dual World Power according to the WTS) is now the KOTN? How is that prophesied in Daniel?
Hi. Have patience. I will exactly analyse and explain it in a NEW following "active topic". (Besides: It matches like a "fingerprint" to Dan. 11, 40-45)
from the 2005 cdrom there are plenty of references to russia being the king of the north.
this starts, as far as i found, at least as early as 1960. what is more difficult to locate are articles that imply that russia is the last kofn.
if anyone has any handy please paste them.
Now, its the first time in the entire history the whole planet got divided into two hemispheres that are fighting against each other: the northern hemisphere with USA as dominant military and economy leader (with many allied countries. Russia, the former counterpart, is one of the best friends of the USA now..) - and on the other side, the southern hemisphere (the third world), consisting of many important raw material-producing countries who are ENEMIES of the northern hemisphere now.
The identity of Daniels king of the north and king of the south is clear today. It never has been so uniquely clear.
