hey seb ,
click........
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hello, i am new to this board, i am not a jehovahs witness however i studied with them for years, i went out into service a couple of times, but i havent done anything in 4 years.
i am so confused.
i always have been scared of the last days thing, but i could never accept the fact that while i was in the meetings, my husband and parents were all at home and the witnesses would tell me that unless they changed and started coming to the meetings that they would be killed!
hey seb ,
click........
:P
hello, i am new to this board, i am not a jehovahs witness however i studied with them for years, i went out into service a couple of times, but i havent done anything in 4 years.
i am so confused.
i always have been scared of the last days thing, but i could never accept the fact that while i was in the meetings, my husband and parents were all at home and the witnesses would tell me that unless they changed and started coming to the meetings that they would be killed!
hey sab
sab wrote "Does this now make everything the teacher told you about how the environment is ruined false? "
No .
What reasoning of ours are you trying to understand? " you said for all those who posted after jaada I am trying to understand your reasoning........ you are very vauge.
hello, i am new to this board, i am not a jehovahs witness however i studied with them for years, i went out into service a couple of times, but i havent done anything in 4 years.
i am so confused.
i always have been scared of the last days thing, but i could never accept the fact that while i was in the meetings, my husband and parents were all at home and the witnesses would tell me that unless they changed and started coming to the meetings that they would be killed!
Hi :P
my names Dan , Im 22 from New Zealand , Im a christian ,thanks for sharing about yourself :P it sounds like a super tough situation you have been in..... but you are not alone.
I myself was at the same place as you at one stage of my life except it was not my partner hurting me, it was my father in law. Growing up was tough , I didnt give to much thought to God I was off the rails doing my own thing. I had the mindset of, if he loved me this wouldnt be happening ( I formed that opnion from the very little I knew about him :P )
Eventualy I met some christian people ( long story :P). who were always willing to answer any question I had. I came to a place in my life when I was truly broken I cried to & looked to the lord in my heart. I'd like to say and the rest is history........ but its not, I still face many things in my life that ive brought with me from my childhood etc.
The more the lord teaches me though, the more I understand his commitment to us is enduring ,unending , and his love is abundent ever waiting and he a very present help/strength/ 24 hours a day 7 days a week. the lord is faithfull to his promises. We have the hard years of our lives,in trials & suffering and we also have the good, Jesus knows exactly where YOU are at in your life! Give him your burdens he will sustain you.
I would be more than happy to help you with any questions you may have. you are in my prayers
Dan
I understand there are non-believers/ believers here, all my postings are views relected from my walk with the lord.
ok, forgive me if this sounds silly but it came to me today.
people keep talking about the earth and its disasters and the fulfilling of prophecies and end times.
but is there a counter argument to these prophecies?
hey :P
Im new to the boards, intresting thread. I believe bible is the living word of God.
sheepish wrote : Really the bottom line for a believer is, it doesn't matter if it happens in our lifetime or not, it doesn't change a thing. If your relationship with God is right, you have peace inside, and freedom from fear of death,which is one of things Jesus came to accomplish.
amen!
still keeping that in mind the bible does tell us the importance of prophecy Rev 1:3. & Isaiah 46:9-11 *over one quarter of the bible is prophetic, for the unbeliever though in a world where people dont see the bible or Jesus as an authority. fulfilled prophecy can be a great door opener.....
cheerz :P
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
hey guys :P
PMJ wrote -
"rev 3:14 proverbs 8:22 this argument has gone on for years the best way to solve it is ask your self the question are you the same person as your father.is your father the same person as his son.why make things so complicated there simple jesus is GODS SON"
The thing theres no way you can compare biblical theology, in a direct comparison to a human father son analogy, I see where your heading but it just doesnt work. prehaps you should read matt 22:41-45 and that will slove your father son "simple" thesis .......
anyways thanks for your feed back but it is still missdirection of my first postings of my original question. eg I asked someone to explain A B C and if A B C are the same then how and when did D happen???
****fairmind it is impossible to be a christian and a JW at the same time. The trinity (as also other things the Jw and christians have different views on ) is/are essential parts of Christian doctrine. Which JW do not believe, Im not here to flat tack refute stuff back and forth...
Eternity is a super long time,...........
Matt 16:15 (Jesus talking) "but what about you??" he asked "who do you say I am? "
God bless
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
ok sky :P
for some reason im preaching to the converted........
are you all ex dubs???
:P dan
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
hey skyman , thanks for info,
nice points made, but you seemed to have missed my question, in the various scripture that I have given, jehovah has been accredited to alpha omega , beginning and end, Rev 1:17-18 has Jesus himself say that he is the alpha omega begginning and end.
17: When I saw him I fell at his feet as though dead, Then he placed his right hand on me and said, "Do not be afraid, I am the first and the list (alpha omega) 18 I am the living one; I was dead and behold I am alive for ever and ever!! And I hold the keys of death and hades,
If this is not the case and first and last (being a title of God) is not valid then tell me then when did jehovah die? for the title claimed was that of God.....and as the latter part of that scripture indicates" I am the living one; I was dead and behold i am alive for ever and ever,.....
just before that is refuted..... let me just say The bible is the authority on all things,
2 tim 3:16 "all scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching rebuking, correcting and training in rightousness,"
2 sam 22:31 " The word of the lord is flawless"
also
proverbs 30:5 "everyword of God is flawless"
also
psalms 18:30 "the word of the lord is flawless"
keeping that in mind,I would like to hear your answer in DIRECT context to the scripture given.
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
hey rig :P
Jw believe Jesus christ is not God. they do not believe in the trinity. Thanks for the info guys, Im out to test the thinking of the JW's and see if we can stir them towards the truth,
God Bless
dan
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
hey
this was directed more to JW's , I am a bible believing christian
the second part of my question is this,
whom is revelation 1 :17-18 talking about, if jesus is not God?? (which he is), referring to context of alpha omega points, then when did jehovah die??
hi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
Hi , im Dan
just checking out your forums etc,
Can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, All are from Revelations,
1:8 21:6-7 22: 12-13
cheers
dan