hi everyone, its betty .
i was just wondering if theyre are any bethelites who were in brooklyn in the late 90's-2003?
i knew a lot of guys there when i was still in the borg.
betty boop, I was at Bethel before you were born, so you probably don't remember me! LOL
Like crazy things no one would ever know from the outside?
How about when some 40 Bethelites and 2 Gileadites were disfellowshipped for homosexuality, all in one fell swoop? Knorr's tirades went on for over a week...and not one word was ever officially mentioned "outside the family."
Otherwise, pretty much for me is like nvr said.
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Forbidden Planet
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
imo, organized religion is as essential to human nature as breathing and thinking: it's an internally motivated manifestation of how we interact with each other, and with the universe that we can never fully comprehend.
It becomes evil when the religion controls us, instead of us controlling the religion.
b-deserters post reminded me of something that was posted quite some time ago, matter of fact, it could've been posted on tishies board, if some of us here remember her website.
a poster on her website quoted the exact date of an awake magazine going back to the early 1960's which clearly stated that jw's could vote if they wanted to, conscious was not mentioned in the article !!.
i went down to my mother's basement, looked up the exact date that was mentioned, and sure enough there it was in plain black and white, jw's had the vote!!
This was brought up recently on another thread, and I've had a chance to do some research on this.
I can't find a single WTS reference that specifically prohibits JWs from voting, at least in the sense that they would be disfellowshipped if they did. Of course, there are frequent references to "abstaining from worldly politics...including voting," but not once do they say that a JW would be df'd if they voted.
In fact, this is rather like trying to df someone for joining the military: the charge of treason would almost certainly be brought against the WTS if they were so overt as to make it a punishable offense.
The default position is to say, at worst, that, "by doing so and so so and so has demonstrated that they no longer desire to be identified as a Jehovah's Witness, and have thereby disassociated themselves."
what do you like to smell on male/females?.
inquiring minds want to know!!!.
purps.
I like the smell of my armpits after 3 days w/o a shower...and so does bikerchic! LOL
my mother-in-law, a die hard jw for 30 years, built kingdom halls with her large donations, has alzheimers.
guess what?
30 years wiped clean, she doesn't remember being a jw, she's a catholic.
RR, maybe I have suffered from a form of Alzheimer's, in the sense of selective memory, and short-term memory loss?
My mother-in-law was in a care facility for many years, suffering from Alzheimer's, and every now and then the blank stare in her face comes back to haunt me, as if I was looking in a mirror.
i've been hearing much about the new generation change?
what is it?.
i heard that something was revealed at the annual meeting.. wanna.
Hello jeffreywhat, and welcome.
Where has the religion I believed in gone?
May I presume that you were raised as a JW? If so, then what happened is that we were raised as "true believers," with all the appurtenances that accompany that environment: Conviction, purpose, and denial.
The "religion" we had was an imposed and carefully conditioned social and psychological control mechanism, oftentimes perpetuated by our parents and closest friends...we (and perhaps even they) knew nothing else, and so what we "knew" was perfectly normal.
Therefore, the "religion I [we] believed in" never existed, except as a construct of our upbringing.
my mother-in-law, a die hard jw for 30 years, built kingdom halls with her large donations, has alzheimers.
guess what?
30 years wiped clean, she doesn't remember being a jw, she's a catholic.
Hi there RR! How ya doin'?
Amazing went from Catholic, to JW, and again to Catholic. Me, I went from JW, to non-JW, then back to JW, then back to non-JW.
Like you said...go figure.
well.. its only days away from when i begin all my christmas decorating... and i just found this brilliant (in my opinion) idea for decorating.... .
it can be found here: http://www.amazing-christmas-ideas.com/christmas-tree-decorating-birds-beads.html.
she uses doves which she hangs from the ceiling with garland beads glued to their beaks......and it appears as if the doves are decorating the tree... .
Es:
my son and I
That's "my son and me."
(I see a Christmas ornament about to be proctologized upon my body! LOLOL)
according to the old testament, yahweh/jehovah regularly and violently made himself manifest.. according to the new testament, there were miraculous works performed to prove that the messiah was who he said he was and that his followers were authentic.. why are there no such public manifestations of jehovah/yahweh/jesus/holy spirit today?
i say public because some individuals describe very personal experiences detailing some sort of miracle or divine intervention in their lives, most often at a low or desperate point.
i have no interest in discounting such personal experiences.
dawg:
eating bread with argot.
Very interesting observation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's how I understand it:
The MidEast environment of an agrarian society was such that grains that were stored (as they must needs be) would typically develop some level of LSD in the grains...and thus, virtually everyone who ate such foodstuffs was, to a degree, "under the influence." I learned a little bit about this some 30 years ago, but really haven't given it much thought since then.
Can you corroborate?
