SillyPutty, welcome to the board!
And, just like kenpodragon said.
An answer to your question: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=38128&site=3
Craig
i'm wondering just how many "active" elders are lurking on this board.
do any of you know if any are here?
SillyPutty, welcome to the board!
And, just like kenpodragon said.
An answer to your question: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=38128&site=3
Craig
well, i've finally saved enough and w/a little help from the dealership i am now the proud owner of a honda shadow 600 vt....not quite a harley, but it rocks!
just thought i would share and let the wholesome apostate sisters that rides are only a nickle..... .
sincerely,.
What a Travis-ty that you have such a cool bike!
Craig
PS...how's your bro doing?
are jw's satans children?.
i was just wondering how ex-jw born agains and members of other religions view jw's and their time as one.do they believe , like jw's do of other religions, that satan is behind the movment?.
do you feel that in your time as a witness you were under satans control?.
Everything I observe in the physical world seems to have a yin/yang...electricity (positive and negative charges), magnetism ("north" and "south" poles), black holes/quasars. Why not the same with animate existence? And if so, then the "good vs. evil" proposition seems, by analogy, reasonable.
There would then be at least 2 possibilities:
1) We unknowingly/unwillingly come under the influence of one of these forces;
2) We deliberately place ourselves under the control of one of these forces.
I prefer 2)...we make a personal choice and accept the responsibility, but also thereby recognize that our mere human existence is not the summation of the universe.
Craig
how about if we all show up for memorial next year, go somewhere that nobody knows you, (or even where they do), and partake of the emblems?
it would skew their numbers the looks would be priceless in a hall where 25 people or more would partake?
then get up and leave and don't talk to anyone.
hehe...and everybody chug a whole glass of wine each and several crackers, then watch what happens when the supply runs out and the elders are staring at each other about how to finish the Memorial.
"Do they have Kosher wine and matzohs at Plaid Pantry?"
Craig
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can you see this pic?
if so, would you date this man?
He has WAY too much hair left!
Craig (of the Kate loves my pate class)
i was very sure that i was, for several years (in the 80's).
never ate/drank the emblems.
don't feel that way now at all.. i knew a few others my age that had a similar experience.. fantasy?.
I was 30 when I had my "epiphany." I knew 2 others my age that actually partook. One was, let me say, unusual. He eventually abandoned his wife and kids, disappeared. The other was a friend I knew in S. Cal, eventually crossed paths with him back at Bethel. He was the TMS servant in the Brooklyn Bethel congregation (lol, he counseled GB members, incl Fred Franz). Nice guy, never married (that I heard), left Bethel to be a special pioneer (last I heard).
Hmmmm, being married and newly anointed don't seem to go together, eh?
btw, welcome to the board, wildfire.
Craig
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well, here i am....the big 40!!!
hey, this aint so bad.. boozy
A whole 40 years old, huh?
A WHOLE 40?
REALLY???
Well, I've got NEWS FOR BOOZE...life starts when you're 50
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
Craig (of the 50 and feeling like 25 class)
for those that have entirely left, what was it that first got you seriously thinking that this really wasn't the truth?
for those that may be in just mentally, you can answer too....
Another "what planet are you from?" answer, but anyway...
The first crack in the dam for me came when the Society outlawed nicotine based on their interpretation of pharmakeia. I was heavy into Greek at the time, and I knew that they were wrong. I was about 25 at the time, had never smoked and never had the desire. But it just kept eating at me...so one night I bought a pack of cigs to test my theory. I sat on the front porch, with my first cig in hand, and prayed to Jehovah that He would protect me from the demons that supposedly would gain control over me for indulging in that spiritistic practice.
Well, nothing of the sort happened. And from then on I questioned EVERYthing I read in the pubs.
Stayed in and out for another 20 years, though...sheesh.
Craig
PS: Not to say that smoking is a good thing
i was very sure that i was, for several years (in the 80's).
never ate/drank the emblems.
don't feel that way now at all.. i knew a few others my age that had a similar experience.. fantasy?.
Farkel: I'm thinking that it might have had more to do with the cocaine and LSD I used the year before...damn pharmakeia thing. The Society was right! The demons took over my brain. LOL
(((((((((((((((((the annoying gumby))))))))))))))))) Settle for working in the Service Dept?
Craig
i was very sure that i was, for several years (in the 80's).
never ate/drank the emblems.
don't feel that way now at all.. i knew a few others my age that had a similar experience.. fantasy?.
gumby: "Can you imagine what Christ would say if he was on the earth today about this matter?"
Maybe...
Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, [Watchtower Society], you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in mens faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to."
Matthew 23:15 "Woe to you, [Watchtower Society], you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."
Sentinel: "no one should be questioning it."
Yes, and that was the ONLY reason I never partook...fear of what everybody would think. "To thine own self be true."
footprints: "Jesus said do this in rememberance of me he was talking to all christians and that means anyone on this site that is a believer in Christ."
Good point. Like I said, I no longer feel that way. But I have frequently pondered that perhaps the "desire" I once had was killed by non-participation. And I DO still believe in the Bible, God and Christ (though with some serious modifications from my former convictions). Well, the future will tell, eh?
bikerchic: Do I know you?
As a matter of fact, one Memorial my folks DID bring home the wine...I suspect that they got great spiritual benefit from it that night!
Craig