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  How would they explain this one?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while there is plenty of pressure for young jws to refrain from every act of premarital sex, self pleasuring or by engaging with others, there isn't a whole lot of advice on the bible regarding this aspect.

  i have just recently began to wonder about it so the only thing i can recall regarding this on the scriptures, is the famous words recorded in 1 cor 7:39 or any other paragraph that speaks against sexual immorality.

  however, i came across deut 21:10. check it out.

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  Says have relations so yea, then kick her out. The whole Deut 21:10-14 sounds pretty barbaric, love to hear apologists on this one. Sounds like at the time of relations she becomes wife, but then you can get rid of her. And this also sounds like a sex slave if you read the context. 
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  New member, no longer just reader...

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i joined very recently and began posting and commenting without a formal intro.

  been reading for a while, decided it was time to jump in.

  mentally i am completely cleansed of this thing, but still have to maintain a minimal involvement for spouse and family.

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  So i joined very recently and began posting and commenting without a formal intro. Been reading for a while, decided it was time to jump in. Mentally I am completely cleansed of this thing, but still have to maintain a minimal involvement for spouse and family. While the organization holds no influence over me, I can't change my loved ones who it still does. So for that reason, the meetings go on, and that is about it. Still with a free mind able to rationalize, question, and just think in general, sitting through a meeting is agony. Once you see and know things for what they are. I won't give out too many details about myself for obvious reasons, but I am open to speaking more on that in PM's. I saw a few recent posts of other who read and just joined so they inspired me to give my own into, and possibly see others do the same. I think more Dubs faith are shaken than we realize, but the die hards are afraid of so many things they may not let go, but there still may be so many reading and learning the truth and not the "Truth". 
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  inheritance

  by truthseeker100 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a good life and i am now worth around 3 million us.

  my two children have their university degrees and a promising future.

  what should i do with my money?

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  The greeks have an expression, "money is like fish, you need to spend it when its fresh" Something along those lines. Now that does't mean waste it away more like grown it. People that are wealthy and get more, grow their money, they don't throw it away, and they have assets. Sometimes it may look to us that they throw it away, but buying high end watches, these are assets, something you can pass on to your kids, some can be bought and later sold for more and so on. Grow it, take 3 and turn it into 6.
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  i know this has been talked about. but isn't wearing JW.org stuff idol worship

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am getting really frustrated...i see jdub's wearing jw.org items and .

  isn't this idol worship.

  respond if you like...i just want some .

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  The original bible students did wear these types of things before there was an "Organization". The archives in BK show this. I heard a guide tout it as the original Facebook/social network, because the vary few "Bible Students" that existed used it to identify each other out of the crowd. This was way back, wish I had images of it, but they do exist at HQ.
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  Frontline: Secret State of North Korea

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secret-state-of-north-korea/.

  this is an interesting documentary just watched on netflix.

  see if you can pick out all the similarities between north korea, and the high control jw.org.. defecting (leaving) not allowed.

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  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secret-state-of-north-korea/

  This is an interesting documentary just watched on Netflix. See if you can pick out all the similarities between North Korea, and the High Control JW.org.

  1. Defecting (leaving) not allowed
  2. Regular (I think it was even weekly) meeting of indoctrination, if you are absent it is noticed and you become suspect. 
  3. All your actions being under close scrutiny by not only the regime, but friends and associates. 
  4. Opinions against the regime punishable
  5. Leaders own uncle shared differing ideas and he was cut off (killed)
  6. Outside information and contact are strictly controlled
  7. And so much more....
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  Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

  now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

  try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

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  Have her show you where it says "organization" In the bible 
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  Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

  now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

  try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

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  Faith (religion) is and answer to a question no one asked. 
  Muslim radicals have works to their faith...
  Hell they probably have more faith than any other religious person. I'm sure they have similar mantras they have taken from scripture out of or even in context.  
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  i know this has been talked about. but isn't wearing JW.org stuff idol worship

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am getting really frustrated...i see jdub's wearing jw.org items and .

  isn't this idol worship.

  respond if you like...i just want some .

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  Judges 19-21

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  most witnesses never read this much.

  sad they don't.

  it is the most horrific chapters of the bible and as such my favorites for slapping other jw s with.. to summerize.:.

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  I remember through the years always questioning to barbaric bible versus (all scripture is beneficial right?) and having someone like my brother who i respect and look up to give some explanation, and turning off my neocortex and accepting it. It's a standard thing being raised as a witness that when the Historicity, righteousness of the bible or the current jw.org is involved you need to be able to say 2+2=5. Because in your mind you have already said "it has to be 5" so you can come up with any kind of crazy reason for how 2+2=5. It's really the height of cult mind control to make us try to disregard these barbaric versus. I have heard it said that this story was also plagiarized with similarities from the sodom and gamorrah debacle. Similar idea, "hey come out and let us rape you" "um how about someone else, I'll just send them out". 
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  OMG - January JW Broadcast - be sure to only talk to people who think like you

  by bafh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i couldn't stand it.

  it was so horrible.

  they really want people to stay simple and obedient.

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  ToesUp

  They are at the one I attend, on Fridays if any want to attend