While there is plenty of pressure for young JWs to refrain from every act of premarital sex, self pleasuring or by engaging with others, there isn't a whole lot of advice on the bible regarding this aspect. I have just recently began to wonder about it so the only thing I can recall regarding this on the scriptures, is the famous words recorded in 1 Cor 7:39 or any other paragraph that speaks against sexual immorality. However, I came across Deut 21:10. Check it out. Is a bit confusing as far as when did the sex happen. Before or after marriage? In any case, the man is free to dismiss her if he wasn't pleased with her.
How would they explain this one?
by StarTrekAngel 10 Replies latest watchtower bible
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freemindfade
Says have relations so yea, then kick her out. The whole Deut 21:10-14 sounds pretty barbaric, love to hear apologists on this one. Sounds like at the time of relations she becomes wife, but then you can get rid of her. And this also sounds like a sex slave if you read the context. -
TerryWalstrom
If you want to understand the pathology of purity, you can look at the history of the Catholic Church.
Plenty of monks isolated themselves from all temptations, took a vow of poverty and some, even a vow of silence. Even then, they felt those natural human longings. So, they beat themselves and the lashes had sharp metal at the end. They would bleed and weep and beg forgiveness.
The pathology was this: When you REDEFINE purity to include NOT BEING HUMAN, you have gone crazy.
What is SPIRITUALITY but a fancy word for not being human any longer?
Crazy people have a club all their own; it is called RELIGION.
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freemindfade
Well said -
_Morpheus
Seems clear to me:
“If you go to war against your enemies and Jehovah your God defeats them for you and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman and you are attracted to her and you want to take her as your wife, 12 you may bring her into your house. She should then shave her head, attend to her nails, 13 and remove the clothing of her captivity, and dwell in your house. She will weep for her father and her mother a whole month, and afterward you may have relations with her; you will become her husband and she will become your wife. 14 But if you are not pleased with her, you should then let her go wherever she wishes. But you may not sell her for money or treat her harshly, since you have humiliated her.
another set of versus that show who their god is and how he treats people. Remember: he does not change!
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Witness 007
Invade the pagan lands kill all the men and take the virgins for yourselves...Jehoover is so good. -
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WTWizard
Everything that represses sexuality in that LIE-ble is designed to hold you down. This is to allow you to be enslaved--joke-hova wants you to be nothing more than a slave. And Paul is in that number (fictitious, to boot) of those who hate homosexuality and polygamy. That thing has it in for sexuality, and hence is pro-communism.
And just about everything else "Paul" has written (or was written in its name) is pro-communism. That scumbag is against homosexuality, but is pro-slavery. Just look at some of the writings--the whole LIE-ble is pro-communism.
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stuckinarut2
That meme is awesome freemindfade! -
blondie
and remove the clothing of her captivity, and dwell in your house. She will weep for her father and her mother a whole month, and afterward you may have relations with her; you will become her husband and she will become your wife. 14 But if you are not pleased with her, you should then let her go wherever she wishes. But you may not sell her for money or treat her harshly, since you have humiliated her.
This is a non-Israelite virgin woman
There was no religious or secular ceremony regarding marriage, once the community saw she came under the man's roof...they were married.
Women were considered property; the husband was referred to the woman's owner.
I have used this scripture more to show that Jews could marry outsiders, that Deut. 7:3,4 only referred to Canaanites, in most cases eveyrthing breathing was destroyed leaving no people at all.
