freemindfade
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Hello
by Munster Abu innew here but looking forward to joining in some of the discussions with you all.. a small bit about me: i'm shane.
was raised as a jw in the uk by my mum (single parent family) from about 2 years of age.
got baptised at 15 for all the wrong reasons.
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Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe
by Powermetal4ever inso i had a discussion with my mother about this, and she claims that because of this that: "we are surely living in the last days right now" while i must admit myself that the situation seem chaotic, i don't want to believe that it is the last days.
so question is, how do i face an opinion like that?
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
As far as 'celebrity maniacs,' I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. I think that, you might be referring to well-known people who don't share your views. But, I'm not sure.
What I am talking about is the uniquely american "shoot your way to infamy"
You see, the psychology of gun ownership and even typical gun violence is very different. How so?
Lets take this Vester mess. Lets say he cracks, wants revenge, and has a gun. He waits outside the station, these two walk out, he gets his "revenge" they are dead. The story floods local headlines and then maybe , MAYBE, gets a small footnote reference on national news feeds, but most likely not. No this is whats happened. Vester Flanagan was delusional, for what sees to be most his life. He was a narcissist, paranoid, angry, if he thinks the desert god was talking to him, he most likely has some schizophrenia. So what did he do?
Well he admired those who have become infamous american sociopath monsters. Household names, they insight fear and terror. They achieved "evil" celebrity status. Again I think you guys are way simplifying this that this was just some asshole that wanted revenge, again thats only a piece. This coward wanted fame. His revenge came with a desire to be known, to be a monster to achieve infamy.
Again this problem is uniquely american. Yea sure we have more guns than other places, the makes it EASIER to find one I am sure. How many countries have no guns at all? There are guns that can be got, especially illegally. Still it remains these stomach turning shooting stories remain an american problem. I have no problem associating gun violence in america with volume of guns. But these theatrical attention grabbing killings, are a deeper issue america has.
Think about Colombine, they had so sadistically planned it out, Erick and Dylan became immortal which is what they wanted. The media helped for sure. These assholes were Deified by the media, not for good but evil, but immortalized none the less. The day before Colombine they were nobodies, the day after they were all anyone was talking about. Vester Flanagan. He WAS a nobody, now we know his name, we know his life story, and we saw the monster he was capable of being.
Again these attention seeking mass murders are really an american phenomenon and the stakes get higher and higher, each one idolizes the last and tries to up the anti on savagery or shock value. In Vesters case, live TV, also he filmed it and streamed it. The church shooting, newton ct if you go back through you see these things get more and more twisted because someone wants to be the next Erick and Dylan. The pattern has been set with the gun, and yes it is an efficient killing tool. But its become a part of the theatrics, especially in the media.
So you change gun laws, ok, great. It will probably contribute to the already declining numbers of gun related crime in America that no one likes to acknowledge. Thats great. Here is a good question thought, is it going to stop the next person that wants to be the next Erick and Dylan? I highly doubt that, because their motive is not revenge, its revenge on steroids. They are determined to become and immortal monster even if they have to die doing it. Its sick. This problem is next level.
The husband of the surviving woman who was being interviewed at the time said the following about it:
Mr Gardner told Fox News that he doesn't think the gun was the issue in the attack against his wife.
'He was bound and determined to try to make a name for himself on live TV because he failed at it so many times,' Mr Gardner said. 'So no, I don’t blame the gun, I blame the guy that was holding the gun.'
Mr Gardner says if he was barred from getting a gun, Flanagan could have killed with a knife or machete.
Gun violence in America is a problem, these "Infamy" shootings, are a more complex problem.
I think the discussion about gun violence is a good one, but when newton Ct, or something like this happens, to use it as the reason WHY we need more controls, is stepping over bigger issues to get to the easy one.
There are 320 millions people in America, there is nearly 300 million guns. What do you believe is going to happen to all of those if a new law is passed? They will just magically disappear? unfortunately those are here probably to stay. An outright complete ban on guns would not stop someone bent on destruction from finding one, it may make it more difficult, but they are going to find a way.
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Hebrew Was The First Language
by Bloody Hotdogs! inaccording to the newest watchtower:.
jehovah communicated with adam in the garden of eden, using human language.
god likely did so in an ancient form of hebrew.
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No offense to my modern Hebrew speakers... but for me it is not the prettiest language. Arabic either.
I think we should all speak Italian when we get to the paradise petting zoo
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Hebrew Was The First Language
by Bloody Hotdogs! inaccording to the newest watchtower:.
jehovah communicated with adam in the garden of eden, using human language.
god likely did so in an ancient form of hebrew.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
@ LoveUniHateExams, honestly I feel kinda bad for you, we all say honest and shocking things, I'm not innocent, but to make a public declaration of bigotry is pretty extreme.
New York city, and I mean the real New York city, is probably one of the most diverse places and I love it, so for you to have a bigoted view of diversity, its really just sad. For me anyway, but carry on, its your freedom.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
By the way, the cocaine cowboys are out of jail now, the ones that survived. Also that violence was a transplant to america. I know what they are up to know, its less risky and violent although still illegal, even those ass clowns learned a better way! -
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
No they don't do those things, but I guarantee you they account for much more of the murder numbers than the spectacle shootings the media has made so desirable by our cult of celebrity maniacs.
You know you guys also preach about this stuff like you know so much about crime and criminals, and you do not. I know gang members, i have family that are gang members.
America has urban problems that a dinky little country like the UK doesn't, it also has a lot of guns, out the two together and you have a problem. I am ok saying that, but you easy chair quarterbacks love to sit back and spew ideas you get from watching action movies and the "if it bleeds it leads media."
I am not whining about anything, I am saying if you are going to point out a problem why pick one? there are lots of problems with with violence here. Guns are just easy to latch onto for the weak minded as the only and #1 problem. thats all I'm saying
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
That me be one of the most shocking things I've heard on this site.
But I'd rather be a bigot who is alive and well than embrace American diversity and end up on a mortician's table.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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freemindfade
I think it's bordline bigotry. I've lived many places in America. I've seen a lot. Good and bad. Better than you know and probably also worse. It's generally peaceful.