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  3rd Gen DF'd finally writing

  by AFreeBeliever in

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  2. experiences

  i've been reading many of the postings on this forum for a couplefew years, finally joined today.

  i think reading cappytan, and others like that, compelled me to share, it seems i might have a bit of a different outcome than many i have read, perhaps it will be hopeful/helpful to someone.. i was a born-in, 3rd gen jw, my entire family (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and most all of my childhood friends) were in.

  some dropped by the wayside as the years went on, but many stayed in, and if they didn't, they still acted/talked as if they believed it was "the truth" and it was their weaknesses/failings that made them stop attending.

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  freemindfade

  welcome from another noobie... 

  and take to heart what OnTheWayOut said
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  A Mind at War

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  right now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.

  they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".

  certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.

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  freemindfade

  If i was writing a book on how it is to break away, I'd call this time the detox time, just don't give up your course, and soon you'll make it through and have peace. It's powerful and like getting off a drug your mind has depended on for so long. 
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  downton.org

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hate to out myself like this... but was watching downton abbey with the wife .

  and anyway, there are a lot of high control similarities to the aristocracy and other control groups and cult etc.

  there are fascinating bits constantly exposing how the an elite class are self ordained to be in such a position, and completely unqualified in many ways, something not as educated as a lowly school teacher of the time, or not as driven by questioning and truth as a lowly drive, but just do as your told... because... anyway this is not my main point, what i am getting at is in the last episode i caught (spoiler alert) it was a big deal for them to get a "wireless" basically a radio, in the house.. you can constantly see how the establishment is threatened by people being informed or exposed to outside people and ideas.

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  freemindfade

  Simon

  
  Its actually very well done, characters are good, wardrobe is awesome, they capture the period very well, I just can't openly admit to it lol. I love breaking bad, I love mad men, i just watch downtown abbey 
  
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  Why a doubter/fader CANNOT participate in Family Worship/ How to get out it," WT Style."

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  family worship night is a boring, depressing, stifling, watchtarded indoctrination/brainwashing session.

  it never ends.

  like all things wt, there is no end in sight.

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  OneEyedJoe Thats when I stopped doing family worship,

  1. it turned into some of me and my wives biggest fights, as it escalated into me questioning things that seemed illogical (pre learning TTATT)

  2. It really got me questioning the bible more every time we studied. 

  
  

  Thats how i got out, if I didn't either she would have killed me or we'd be divorced.
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  A Mind at War

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  right now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.

  they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".

  certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.

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  freemindfade

  "Give your heart time to catch up with your head. " what cofty said is a perfect way of describing it. Someday you'll feel like you are falling out of control, but you aren't just give yourself time to break the shackles.
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  A Mind at War

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  right now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.

  they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".

  certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.

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  freemindfade

  Focus on the freedom, with a good fade the heartache wont happen, and the void left by your crumbling doctrines will soon be filled with relief and peace. Tear it down. Let it crumble. There is light on the other side trust me, I know the anxious feeling you are experiencing. Being a witness for a long time or raised in it as I was gives you an all or nothing mentality, this makes it hard to progress without feeling like the ground is going to open up and swallow you
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  downton.org

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hate to out myself like this... but was watching downton abbey with the wife .

  and anyway, there are a lot of high control similarities to the aristocracy and other control groups and cult etc.

  there are fascinating bits constantly exposing how the an elite class are self ordained to be in such a position, and completely unqualified in many ways, something not as educated as a lowly school teacher of the time, or not as driven by questioning and truth as a lowly drive, but just do as your told... because... anyway this is not my main point, what i am getting at is in the last episode i caught (spoiler alert) it was a big deal for them to get a "wireless" basically a radio, in the house.. you can constantly see how the establishment is threatened by people being informed or exposed to outside people and ideas.

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  freemindfade

  I hate to out myself like this... But was watching downton abbey with the wife   

  and anyway, there are a lot of high control similarities to the aristocracy and other control groups and cult etc. There are fascinating bits constantly exposing how the an elite class are self ordained to be in such a position, and completely unqualified in many ways, something not as educated as a lowly school teacher of the time, or not as driven by questioning and truth as a lowly drive, but just do as your told... because...  anyway this is not my main point, what I am getting at is in the last episode I caught (spoiler alert) It was a big deal for them to get a "wireless" basically a radio, in the house.

  You can constantly see how the establishment is threatened by people being informed or exposed to outside people and ideas. In any event still getting on, they all listen to the king saying something, now at the end the old grandma lady, who is old school hardcore aristocracy says hearing the king speak makes him more real, and she is not sure if that is a good thing or bad thing. It might remove the magic that keeps them so important and special. And it instantly got me thinking about JWtv. Making the witnesses aristocracy get out in front of everyone and speak is going to take away that mystery most share about the GB. It's making them real and to quote her, "not sure if thats such a good thing". Think about it... and don't judge me too much for watching this 
  
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  The emptiness of science may explain the rise of fundamentalism...

  by cognisonance in

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  2. beliefs

  neurophilosopher, thomas metzinger says in his book:.

  the ego tunnel: thescience of the mind and the myth of the self.

  the ego evolved as an instrument in social cognition, and one of its greatest functional advantages was that it allowed us to read the minds of other animals or conspecifics and then to deceive them.

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  Religious people think science works the same is religion in its stance on things which is not true:

  Science: Always Doubt

  Religion: NO doubt

  Science: Always Question

  Religion: NO Question

  Science: When challenged replies with evidence

  Religion: When challenged becomes hostile

  They are not the same at all, but always avoid someone that says they have all the answers, stick to those always looking for actuall truths (not truth, truths)

  
  
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  2015 Regional Convention Theme - unofficial-

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  news about 2015 regional convention theme?.

  list of my preview:.

  - the end is at hand.

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  freemindfade

  Listen, Obey, and be ready to pay...

  
  

  

  
  
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  New member, no longer just reader...

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i joined very recently and began posting and commenting without a formal intro.

  been reading for a while, decided it was time to jump in.

  mentally i am completely cleansed of this thing, but still have to maintain a minimal involvement for spouse and family.

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  freemindfade

  SAHS

  you and I are very much on the same page. 

  Real truth is irrefutable, and can stand up to anything without doubt

  Real truth doesn't involved mystery

  Real truth is simple

  The bible, the dubs, any religion do not contain any of this. And ridding yourself of all of those opens a new world of peace and happiness. 

  • Less worry
  • Random acts of kindness
  • A loss of interest in conflict 
  • Happiness
  • Enjoying each moment 
  • No more judging self
  • No more Judging others 
  • Feeling of true appreciation
  • A connection to others
  • True unconditional love
  • Loss of interest in taking every negative world event and trying to interpret into something 
  • The ability to think free
  • Act spontaneous
  • Learn
  • grow
  • experience