This was how it was for many, especially older ones. However with the last few years developments, if you aren't on the Internet all the time on your tablet, well you aren't a witness anymore. One exception though... only jw.org otherwise you will see pornography, apostate thinking, or fall of into the oblivion of actually learning about the real world.
freemindfade
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How many Dubbers stay away from the internt?
by dogon ini know of several who have nothing to do with the internet as if it will lead them off into oblivion.
how many do you know that feel this way?
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"Big Fish in small goldfish bowls"
by stuckinarut2 inyou know, the more we think about it, jehovah's witnesses are just like "big fish in small goldfish bowls".. yes, they may appear important, or "big" but this is only within a very small sphere of influence - yes only within a small and limited world.. to those outside of that small insular world, they are "no-bodies", unimportant, or at least insignificant in the real scheme of life.. so, the next time something from the witness world seems to be a big issue in our lives, step back and look at things from "outside of the goldfish bowl" .
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freemindfade
Very true post. And to add to this the longer they spend in that bowl they are not just nobodies. They are virtualy drones. I have observed many (Mostly with younger gen y raised in's) that have nothing to talk about. No passion. no interests. They laugh at things that are not funny in the least. No personality. the limits of their world are numerous. -
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Hotel Caifornia, Stairway to Heaven, Saturday Night Fever
by Butyoucanneverleave indoes anyone remember those 2 songs and that movie specifically being mentioned in the watchtower?
they were"bad" and should be avoided.
it had to be in the late 70's or early80's.
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I want to say Guns and Roses was specifically mentioned at one point. Or at least I had heard of someone getting kicked out of bethel for having their music. GB not big axel fans apparently... -
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Did Jonah knew more than Jehovah? smart man!
by prologos insaturday's daily text: jonah 3:10 " --god felt regret--that he had spoken--" so jonah must have had a premonition, that he would be made to look like a fool because of his preaching, that is probably the real reason why he went to spain, tasted the fishy gastric juices for 3.5 days.
because the all knowing god could not be bothered to foresee that the ninevites would change their attitude, --- bible nonsense.
"god is adaptable" .
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How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?
by snugglebunny inback in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.
only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.
in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.
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freemindfade
Shunning is for sure radical. You tell a JW that islam, and the amish, and the mormons, and scientology and other groups do the exact same thing for the exact same reason... they just give you a blank stare like you never said anything
and go on saying things how if you loved someone very much and someone criticized them you'd shun the critical person... INSANITY!! They totally miss how insane this practice is. With myself I have been seeing this first hand within my family. Even some can't tell me how what is happening does any good or makes any sense.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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freemindfade
I can see this being used against all those who have figured out how to live in the loophole. Not being a witness, not being DF'd. I am sure they hate it and I am sure they read these apostate sites themselves and have a feel for whats going on. So to Joe publisher who has a friend/family who recently seems content to fade away, this will appear to them to be "food at the proper time". Oh isn't god great how he gives a crap about just me! And they will start to exert pressure. Because the more of us that are faded, the more inside are affected. So there is no overt mystery to us why this is coming out, but to the insiders they are going to see it as a miracle I am sure, even though its as simple as the Watchtower looking at their statistics and seeing that people are fading and don't give as big a crap. -
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How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?
by snugglebunny inback in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.
only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.
in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.
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freemindfade
The danger in JW's is less about their theology and more about devout members inability to believe/think that it is not the one true religion. Anything is possible when people aren't in control, and I have blasted my family for this and given examples of the danger of letting someone else think for you... however...
All that being said, with the JW's I believe it is so big, and there are so many inside that are actually on the fringe in a lot of ways, that they wouldn't do anything radical. Now the hardcores in the middle, possibly, but overall I think anything extreme would be isolated and small.
Although some would call turning down medical treatment "radical".
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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!
by minimus ini am most curious.
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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freemindfade
It's an interesting thought.
- They have been using it to keep the thing together for decades
- So many have been affected by it it's hard to imagine them having to reverse that. Probably be a bigger woopsie than the generation thing.
- but on the other hand, with Islam and others being more exposed for the same practice, it may put pressure on them and it may have legal implications
Like recently I have been thinking. You aren't considered an adult until 18 (in america). I was baptized at 15 and considered old in my area. But still I couldn't get married Etc that young and not be criticized. How can you make an equally critical decision before being an adult that could potentially destroy your life later when you become more mature and change your mind
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Return to Jehovah… No Return Address
by Marvin Shilmer inreturn to jehovah... no return address .
today i read a small piece of poetic irony.
im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.
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freemindfade
They want people to return because there are probably legal changes in the secular judicial system coming that will put these practices in a legal forum and they are already overburdened within child abuse. If all df'd shunned ones had legal recourse. Oh my.