Posts by freemindfade

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Letter From My Elder Uncle

by freemindfade in

ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.

this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.

as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.

freemindfade

Its true fernando, Witnesses never understand that the burden of proof falls on the person who makes a claim, not on who doesn't accept it. ie; 607 bce

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Watchtower has a Philosophy of Totalism

by OnTheWayOut in

cults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.

that certainly fits watchtower.

they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.

One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

by freemindfade in

1st john 4:18 .

18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

freemindfade

1st John 4:18

18 There is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us. Indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+

Compare that with everything that keeps the organization together, I know THEY tell the followers its love, and because its a cult they believe that, but when you wake up you know its fear.

Fear of dying at Armageddon
Fear of not seeing dead loved ones again in a paradise
Fear of the elders
Fear of embarrassment
Fear of YHWH
Fear of family
Fear of disfellowshipping

Well this scripture seems to make me believe fear is not good according to this particular part of the bible. If you have an abusive mate, and they say love me or I'll kill you, and you do, does that mean you really love them? Or are you saying it because you don't want to suffer? Even (this part of) the bible shows the witness fear machine is WRONG.

By the way I heard this scripture two nights ago from the CO's talk. Hypocrisy.

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"BRAZEN CONDUCT" The current way of enforcing disciplinary action.

by stuckinarut2 in

the penalty of this charge??

yes, disfellowshipping.. bad association?

excessive time at work?

freemindfade

stuckinarut2

I was arguing with the wife last night about this very thing, that their "loving" concern always turns out to be an investigation into me or someone else. I was telling her this is the direction it is heading with me and she refuses to believe that is the case.

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In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?

by stuckinarut2 in

what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?

freemindfade

The complete mental barricade to obvious MAJOR flaws in the organization. I feel i forced the barricade for years until I just couldn't anymore and was honest with myself. JW's live in a constant lie:

I think for myself
No one influences what I do
I am free to do whatever i want
The organization is loving
They are 'The Truth"
We are happy, look no one else is
Only our lives are fulfilled an meaningful

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"Moses, by far the meekest and most humble person" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

seriously, how can it be ok for someone to say of themselves that they are "by far the meekest and most humble person" on the earth?.

numbers 12:3 'now the man moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth'.

yes, moses was so humble that he told everyone about it!!?!.

freemindfade

I agree about the political/cultural/religious implications and motives of the entire bible. Not even the OT. But all of it.

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Atheism

by Jonathan Drake in

jw
friends

recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.

there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.

so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.

freemindfade

Yep, I agree with cofty. Enjoy the ride

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"Moses, by far the meekest and most humble person" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

seriously, how can it be ok for someone to say of themselves that they are "by far the meekest and most humble person" on the earth?.

numbers 12:3 'now the man moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth'.

yes, moses was so humble that he told everyone about it!!?!.

freemindfade

fulltimestudent

excellent work and excellent example of eisegesis. thank you.

and I think I could drink YHWH under the table sadly

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How do you feel about religion as a whole?

by FatherFirst in

it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

just curious, a personal poll if you will.

what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

freemindfade

So far I like Heaven's response best.

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Has This Site Ever Hurt You In Your Journey Out Of The JW Religion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

this site has gone through many metamorphosis over the years.

i believe it is a kinder, less edgy place tan it was a few years ago.

i wonder how many people were helped versus turned off by this place.

freemindfade

I found my way out, joined this site 3 months ago, and despite the sometimes edginess it has helped me observe similar situations to mine, to vent, to get advice and so on. I like it.