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  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  by FatherFirst in

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  it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

  just curious, a personal poll if you will.

  what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

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  freemindfade

  “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

  *drops the mic and walks away...*
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  Atheism

  by Jonathan Drake in

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  recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.

  there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.

  so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.

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  freemindfade

  Whenever I am feeling especially Godless I enjoy a good stroll through some instagram accounts that deal with godlessness and atheism. They are quite good for mid day boost in enjoying being awake.

  I have recently been enjoying one called atheistproblems.

  Anyway, it can give some levity, or some serious thought provoking firepower for you.

  truthseeker100

  Lack of belief in God or a God is not a claim that there is no God.
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  One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1st john 4:18 .

  18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

  indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

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  freemindfade

  TTWSYF Fear is an emotion, really when you think of it on those terms it is never pleasant. Think of someone who is afraid of the ocean or someone who is in awe of the ocean. You could say they are in awe and respect it but when you say "fear" thats an emotion just like anger, and so on.
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  One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1st john 4:18 .

  18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

  indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

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  freemindfade

  Agreed, and while I was sitting in the meeting the other day looking at my bible while the CO read some scripture from the bible, I wondered, is there ANY scripture in the first 5 books, really the foundation, that portrays god in any sort of loving way? An interesting challenge, I would like to make that another post. See if anyone can think of one.

  Before david was writing poetry about YHWH. The moses bits, when is God shown to be loving, forgiving, patient, kind, just, merciful...?
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  One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1st john 4:18 .

  18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

  indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

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  freemindfade

  cappytan, "It's not a morbid fear, it's a fear of displeasing him!" that is funny. Just reading that statement now makes me laugh. Put it in the context of an abusive mate, or parent, or animal owner. Or citizen under a harsh dictatorship. That statement that we have all heard in talks time and again is the ultimate JW-oxymoron.

  I am not afraid of my Spouse beating the hell out of me, I am just afraid of displeasing him/her.
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  Letter From My Elder Uncle

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.

  this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.

  as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.

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  freemindfade

  William Penwell I agree with you 100%
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  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  by FatherFirst in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

  just curious, a personal poll if you will.

  what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

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  freemindfade

  religion as a whole?.... how about religion as a "Hole" a black hole of knowledge. Or a hole in the head that your rational brain falls out of
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  Letter From My Elder Uncle

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.

  this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.

  as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.

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  freemindfade

  Its true fernando, Witnesses never understand that the burden of proof falls on the person who makes a claim, not on who doesn't accept it. ie; 607 bce
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  Watchtower has a Philosophy of Totalism

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. beliefs

  cults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.

  that certainly fits watchtower.

  they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.

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  freemindfade

  Great post

  OnTheWayOut
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  One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1st john 4:18 .

  18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

  indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

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  freemindfade

  1st John 4:18

  18 There is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us. Indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+

  Compare that with everything that keeps the organization together, I know THEY tell the followers its love, and because its a cult they believe that, but when you wake up you know its fear.

  • Fear of dying at Armageddon
  • Fear of not seeing dead loved ones again in a paradise
  • Fear of the elders
  • Fear of embarrassment
  • Fear of YHWH
  • Fear of family
  • Fear of disfellowshipping

  Well this scripture seems to make me believe fear is not good according to this particular part of the bible. If you have an abusive mate, and they say love me or I'll kill you, and you do, does that mean you really love them? Or are you saying it because you don't want to suffer? Even (this part of) the bible shows the witness fear machine is WRONG.

  By the way I heard this scripture two nights ago from the CO's talk. Hypocrisy.