Edenone I get your OP. Regardless of the translation though it's meaning is context based and situational. For witnesses it's an absolute black and white tool. I have found recently my frustration with people asking me "what do you believe then"? I have grown to hate it. Because before I thought black and white now I realize belief is never 100% I guess it's kinda like myth butsters to me. Confirmed. Busted. Or plausible. The reality is most things in our life fall under plausible. Lack of belief in god is not a claim that there is NO god. This is where people can't understand atheists.
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What is BELIEF ?
by EdenOne instemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.
what exactly is "belief"?.
is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
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JWs And Near Death Experiences
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freemindfade
Do some research on DMT. The "near death" experience is more likely than not due to when you clinically die your pineal gland in your brain releases a ton of DMT and you have one of these experiences. DMT has a hallucinogenic effect like LSD, however with DMT the hallucinations have similar elements.
The pineal gland, sometimes referred to as the third eye can be connected to many "mystical" experiences, visions, and so on. The mind is a powerful thing. Do a little research into the experiments that were done in the 60's i believe, many people had similar experiences with beings etc that could be compared to both alien abductions and near death (biological not clinical) experiences.
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Scripture Challenge: Theists, atheist, anti-theists, absentheists, satan worshippers whoever can help...
by freemindfade incan anyone give me one or more scriptures in the first 5 books of the bible that would describe yhwh the tribal desert god as loving, kind, merciful, etc?...
and by loving i don't mean, "in order to release all the jews from slavery god @$$blasted the egyptians with ten plagues because he was so loving to his chosen race"..
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OrphanCrow
So with every puff I will thank the God of Abraham lol.
cappytan
Ok let me make an addendum to the OP
give an example of God being loving, merciful, kind, compassionate.
Not Moses saying God is F--ing awesome and so am I, plus super humble. lol
Also I should have put this in the OP, the reason I posted this is that I have a hunch there is no such scripture, but I don't know that for sure, so if there is one I want to know before accepting my own hunch
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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?
by william draper inso many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .
more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .
does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .
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freemindfade
"Jehovah" is a fabrication of monk... the end.
YHWH was what the Hebrew called their version of Aten.
It's all only important to witnesses and they have it completely wrong
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Scripture Challenge: Theists, atheist, anti-theists, absentheists, satan worshippers whoever can help...
by freemindfade incan anyone give me one or more scriptures in the first 5 books of the bible that would describe yhwh the tribal desert god as loving, kind, merciful, etc?...
and by loving i don't mean, "in order to release all the jews from slavery god @$$blasted the egyptians with ten plagues because he was so loving to his chosen race"..
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cappytan
Good find, it doesn't really give an example of his being so though.
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Scripture Challenge: Theists, atheist, anti-theists, absentheists, satan worshippers whoever can help...
by freemindfade incan anyone give me one or more scriptures in the first 5 books of the bible that would describe yhwh the tribal desert god as loving, kind, merciful, etc?...
and by loving i don't mean, "in order to release all the jews from slavery god @$$blasted the egyptians with ten plagues because he was so loving to his chosen race"..
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OrphanCrow
hahahaha perfect! except that is the opposite of love! in the judeo christian world he gave us the herb then said don't us it (according to his minions)
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Scripture Challenge: Theists, atheist, anti-theists, absentheists, satan worshippers whoever can help...
by freemindfade incan anyone give me one or more scriptures in the first 5 books of the bible that would describe yhwh the tribal desert god as loving, kind, merciful, etc?...
and by loving i don't mean, "in order to release all the jews from slavery god @$$blasted the egyptians with ten plagues because he was so loving to his chosen race"..
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Can anyone give me one or more scriptures in the first 5 books of the bible that would describe YHWH the tribal desert god as loving, kind, merciful, etc?..
And by loving I don't mean, "in order to release all the jews from slavery god @$$blasted the Egyptians with ten plagues because he was so loving to his chosen race".
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Praying in Public?
by Garrett inhellloooo fellow apostates, mentally diseased devil worshippers :) how is everyone?.
today, i listened to a song about praying and how one can pray anywhere.
well, this song brought back the horror of sitting in restaurants, mcdonalds, coffee shops etc and having a group of brothers and sister bow their head and pray for what seemed to be an eternity.
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freemindfade
stuckinarut2 its the same as everything in this religion, even in their own sideways way they admit it's about what you show. faith without works and all that bull$hit.
The people that make the biggest outward display area clearly the most "SPIRITUAL". It's the same reason the JW plaster their instagram with pictures of themselves guarding the carts, and holding up a magazine in public... who are they showing it to? Each other? Seems silly doesn't it?
Its like "hey I just need to remind you every hour on the hour in someway I haven't left the truth". total insanity. That pissed me of my whole jw life, the need to show it. Because I got criticized for not being one who participates in these shameless, self stroking displays of cult loyalty.
Again they are designed to show EACH OTHER. What is the point? Self gratifying religious masterbation, and showing the rest you are still fully indoctrinated!
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When you were Hard-Core JW, did Opponents Screaming or Filming you help your Exit?
by PokerPlayerPhil inall of us are upset in different ways, some of us are ferociously angry because, let's face it, it's our fault!
i had many clues they were lying about our religion but i failed to see through them because of the pain of admitting we got conned and family pressure from peers stopped me from making a courageous choice.
when i read about people who confronted the elders and won their judicial committees (even though the jw elders df'ed them) my heart goes out to their courage, their amazingly stronger than i will ever be.
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freemindfade
I believe the most damaging thing to the organization is for any of us to appear rational and in control. That breaks their faith more than anything. you are attacking a CULT. cults exist and thrive by CULT RULES. When you yell at the meeting or at assembly or make a theatrical scene you are playing into CULT RULES. It doesn't impress us. It doesn't impress rank and file. It doesn't impress non-believers aka worldly people. It only impresses YOU. Just think how happy you are making the GB. Have you thought about that??? They know when they see this it's like you telling all the witnesses you are doing this in front of "you are right". Think about the little kids you may have a chance to leave this thing someday, and you are frightening them driving them in deeper to the hedge of the cult. They have theatrical warfare. We are fighting cult warfare, are you trying to help them? Ninja? -
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Praying in Public?
by Garrett inhellloooo fellow apostates, mentally diseased devil worshippers :) how is everyone?.
today, i listened to a song about praying and how one can pray anywhere.
well, this song brought back the horror of sitting in restaurants, mcdonalds, coffee shops etc and having a group of brothers and sister bow their head and pray for what seemed to be an eternity.
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freemindfade
Just another day of devil worshipping over here.
I actually never did that. I couldn't do it. I thought it looked so self righteous.