Posts by freemindfade

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Question for atheists and nonbelievers

by pressman in

i profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.

believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.

do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.

Just sent a letter...at 1am, after drinking a lot of Scotch

by tresdecu in

jw
friends

sent to the production company that made 'going clear' (documentary about scientology).

edit: i sent an email...not an actual letter.

dear mr gibney,.

freemindfade

I want to see this one, I haven't had a chance yet, but there is a good one on hulu too, kinda short called Scientology: Ex Files. Drink some scotch and mail the producers of this one as well!

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

Moses did that, stood an pointed his finger at god, when they were worshipping the calf god said he wanted to kill them all and make a nation out of Moses, good ol' moses talked him out of it. I god wants to kill me for questioning how his book has represented him, I guess I am dead, but I don't want to live forever looking over my shoulder to see if I have somehow angered YHWH.

I hope nothing I have said has been an insult to you either William, but after 35 years of forcing my rationality down to swallow bible stories, I am a little raw when it comes to accepting this man made book.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

Just because you find something good in the bible that if a man rapes a woman he should be killed, doesn't make it inspired of god, I am sure hitler and many other atrocious people had scruples with certain matters and even what we might call "morals". If hitler believed that anyone raping a woman should be killed would that make him good person or even god inspired???

There are good people with god, there are bad people with god, there are good people without god, there are bad people without god, only good people do bad things with god

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

Beautifully put Terry. love it.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

The bible is a dangerous book with dangerous ideas and consequences, not divine enlightenment.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

We are all born atheists, religion is what someone gives to us.

You have prairie dogs that have evolved to be monogamous, others are not, their brains are wired differently, one the ocytocin receptors work differently. One is not reading the bible and the other isn't. In the case of one monogamy is part of their evolution and social structure. The other it has no baring.

What I am getting at is who is to say the marriage is necessary for humans? Or even moral??? It is so deeply engrained in us its hard to imagine it otherwise, but that is not because of GOD its because of indoctrination. I am not preaching against marriage, but honestly I believe it is as man made as the bible itself. If two people want to be together forever and not with anyone else and can do it, more power to them. It they chose a different path I don't believe they deserve eternal destruction by god.

The bible didn't even start as the "Holy Bible" it was a library of jewish writings and there was a lot more to it than just the Holy Bible you thump today. It's existence is a result of a need for a foundation myth and political social control reasons. That is as plain as day if you read it in the context of history with its lack of actual archeological backing.

tim3l0rd everyone is allowed to express their faith. To say that the bible is all the things that Cofty mentioned because of cultural attitudes of the time would mean YHWH was relenting to the desires of these tribal sheepherders to follow their culture over TRUE morality. No thanks. I'll pass.

Such a "wise" book

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

This is where the bible got lost along the way... and what it should be to be a "good person".

1. Reason, Not Superstition

2. Ethics, Not Dogma

3. Respect, Not Worship

4. Courage, Not Fear

5. Fact, Not Myth

6. Morality, Not Religion

7. Clarity, Not Delusion

8. Good, Not God

9. Skeptic, Not Cynic

10. Rationality, Not Ideology

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

freemindfade

My friend, most of the "good things" in the bible were written by the Egyptians long before whomever wrote the bible. Fact.

Humans are an every evolving group, we are strong social creatures, we are stronger when we have stronger society, logic tells us that not murdering, not stealing and so forth creates a stronger more successful society, even in untouched cultures who have never heard of the bible and follow the same basic moral principles.

Greek myths and other "foundation myths contain accounts that use sometimes real places, and moral stories. Does that make them true? There are volumes of research on where the bible has actually come from, where its main themes were plagiarized from etc. I ask you spend some serious unbiased research time on these then consider your question again.

The bible and religion were part of our evolution and imagination, but what they are today is an answer to questions no one should be asking

Peace and love FMF