Posts by freemindfade

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There is no right and wrong

by campaign of hate in

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friends

so i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.

smoking is wrong.

going on the ministry is right.

Anytime your morality must come from an external source based on ego of some sort, it's going to get twisted. What do morals do? really they make for a stronger society, healthier society. The dogma of religion, specifically the big three from Abraham, dabble some of this in with a lot of nonsense. Being kind to your neighbor, being a decent person, those things get lost in religions idea of right and wrong, then you have extremists committing great wrongs. Because YHWH, God, Allah always includes a 'but' or 'if'. It gives a loophole for great evils.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."-Steven Weinberg

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The WTBTS "almost" admits the truth.....

by DATA-DOG in

during the wt session, the org admits that the actions of eldubs can cause an eventual shortage of "qualified " brothers, and it has.

they speak of a lack of teaching as the cause.

in reality, it's the legalism and control issues within the org itself that have caused a shortage of men who are willing to reach out.

freemindfade

I found it very strange the watchtower outright mentions brothers in 20's and 30's. Also that it said "need greaters"

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Do we have a "spiritual need"?

by LexIsFree in

so this is only my second post but its about something that has been on my mind for awhile now.

have any of you ever felt the need to pray or speak to a higher power?

do any of you beleive that we were created or have evolved with a "spiritual need"?

freemindfade

Work I harmony with your prayers is the same as saying do it yourself but remember it was actually god, like the homeless starving fellow who told the old lady he could make soup out of a stone. So he started with the stone and kept asking for things and eventually just made soup that had a rock in it the prayer does nothing. You do.

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

freemindfade

This is one of many red flags about this cult. They claim god is so great and they are so amazing but the slightest breeze from education or a former member could undo it all??? There is something wrong there.

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Do we have a "spiritual need"?

by LexIsFree in

so this is only my second post but its about something that has been on my mind for awhile now.

have any of you ever felt the need to pray or speak to a higher power?

do any of you beleive that we were created or have evolved with a "spiritual need"?

freemindfade

I think we have an imaginative need. And I think that is part of our evoluton. Out minds can expand and think of many fantastic things. I think mankind got derailed by the Abrahamic religions and hasn't grown out of them yet. Our spirituality is a deep desire to grow, learn, experience, and so on. I believe goups/cults like the witness cause the opposite of these things and are in fact the opposite of spiritual. They suspend all those things. Put you into a box you never fit in and tell you to stay there. And by showing how willing you are to stay that is their version of spirituality.

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New Thought About Active J.W.'s

by The Searcher in

from my own observations & conversations with selected active j.w.

's, here are my conclusions:.

's are very rapidly falling into two distinct camps -.

freemindfade

I agree.

I think that second group though is frightened or tired or something. And they will just do their time and follow cult rules until the croak. Content to wait on yhwh.

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Game 2!!!!!!!!!!

by LAWHFol in

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friends

down with lebron.

freemindfade

The warriors will not play 5 more games as poorly look how close they were to winning playing like trash and with a bunch of lebron worshipping refs. These are dubs I can get behind.

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I'm okay with the "fruitage of the spirit."

by cappytan in

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friends

though i now consider myself a secular buddhist, i just realized today that i'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by paul as the "fruitage of the spirit.".

the only one i take issue with is "faith" in the context of religion.

what are your thoughts on the matter?.

freemindfade

It's kind of the same way people talk about all morals of the bible. Like the bible was the origin of all morality. I agree they are good to peruse. But like the logical parts of the ten commandments they would be good human qualities if, or if not the bible ever existed. Really the Egyptians did a much better job (and before the bible) of codifying decent behavior.

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

freemindfade

Just like the beginning of the bible. Knowledge pisses yhwh off.

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What's worse, brutal murder or fornication?

by Tornintwo in

just to give you a bit of background, i've been researching my doubts for over a month, i'm convinced that although they may have some things right, they have a lot of other things horribly wrong.

i'm still clinging to a faith in god, because i see a creator's hand in nature, and i believe in jesus and his teachings, love, mercy, compassion.....that if everyone truly applied these (including jws) then all would benefit.. but i read this article in march and it's been on my mind ever since.

where isis stone a young couple to death for sex before marriage (a bit graphic).. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017800/sickening-images-blindfolded-bound-couple-brutally-stoned-death-fornication-isis-militants-iraq.html.

freemindfade

Tornintwo

You sound like you are on the same path as me when it came to my truly unshackling myself from JW's, also I was agnostic for the same reasons, but over time of learning free from dogma, I realized that because some principles of Jesus were good, they are not exclusive. Many atheists have a love of life that I had to come to understand for myself. Basically they have no religion to die for, but they have everything to live for and when they are moral it's roots go far deeper and truer than doing it for a myth.

Not trying to preach to you, I just feel you are starting this off the same way as myself. I came to an epiphany one day that indeed sexual relations between people (forget forinication and other negative words), Sex, a biological function of people as mammals is obsessed about way too much by abrahamic religions and their followers, where as killing is ok, for many petty things. According to the Jehovah's Witnesses, just for visiting this site, in the days of isreal you too would be buried up to your neck and have your loved ones throw stones at your head until you are dead. Look up apostasy in the insight book.