1914 is a totally bogus date... the end. Without 1914 their other dates crumble.
http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php
hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.
in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.
possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.
1914 is a totally bogus date... the end. Without 1914 their other dates crumble.
http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php
started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.
first episode was interesting.
in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).
Thats what woke my ass up. weekly bible reading
Thanks JWORG!!!
when i was in school, you never heard about critical thinking skills...not till you started taking college level courses.. i work closely with the public education community.
now, the big rage in public education is instilling critical thinking skills from kindergarten on up.. and i'm in texas!
imagine what it's like in more liberal areas.. i would not be surprised if the watchtower started denigrating and discouraging public education (k-12).. it would likely start like this: .
Not in Canada Eh?
You guys are missing out
a few years ago i heard of a story about two jw's being at a green day concert.
i think that the witnesses were bethelites.
the person that told me that story said that the band was about to play but they couldn't.
Heard that about:
John Denver
Pearl Jam
Green Day
Gloria Estafan
and on and on and on
it was so funny!.
the small rented hall our congregation uses had a blackout.
we think there was some construction work next door that caused it.. at least the glow of everyone's tablets and cell phones kept the place illuminated!.
when i was in school, you never heard about critical thinking skills...not till you started taking college level courses.. i work closely with the public education community.
now, the big rage in public education is instilling critical thinking skills from kindergarten on up.. and i'm in texas!
imagine what it's like in more liberal areas.. i would not be surprised if the watchtower started denigrating and discouraging public education (k-12).. it would likely start like this: .
Distance learning is the way of the future, I am sure it would be a legit school that taught reading, writing, math, but absent would be the little worldly kids to make you question your beliefs, and the teaching of lies like "biology".
Its not out of the question, who of us ever thought one of the core teaching tools would become saturday morning cartoons with caleb and sophia, I think the parents are more into that BS than the kids
similar views as those presented here are gaining in popularity in christian circles.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmrfatdvtm.
started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.
first episode was interesting.
in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).
No apologists on child sacrifice? Not as fun without the apologists
started a history channel series on netflix last night called bible rules.
first episode was interesting.
in one part is was discussing stoning (which was not exclusive to the people of the dessert god).
Its good for lurkers to know that the Desert god (yhwh, yahweh, Jehovah etc.) was not opposed to child sacrifice. Yes the scriptures did condemn it at times, but often with qualifiers like "to Molech". Instead of just "don't sacrifice your kids". There are scriptures that outright say it like that though, but this was likely due to changes in culture perception of these types of practices.
Here is a good one from 2 Samuel for the lurkers. The desert god is punishing Israel with famine, so what's the answer?
Problem: Desert god mad
Solution: Human sacrafice
21 Now there was a famine+ in the days of David for three consecutive years, so David consulted Jehovah, and Jehovah said: “There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibʹe·on·ites to death.”+ 2 So the king called the Gibʹe·on·ites+ and spoke to them. (Incidentally, the Gibʹe·on·ites were not Israelites but Amʹor·ites+ who remained, and the Israelites had sworn to spare them,+ but Saul sought to strike them down in his zeal for the people of Israel and Judah.)3 David said to the Gibʹe·on·ites: “What should I do for you, and how can I make atonement, so that you will bless the inheritance of Jehovah?” 4 The Gibʹe·on·ites said to him: “It is not a matter of silver or gold+ for us in connection with Saul and his household; nor can we put any man to death in Israel.” At that he said: “Whatever you say, I will do for you.” 5 They said to the king: “The man who exterminated us and schemed to annihilate us from living anywhere in the territory of Israel+— 6 let seven of his sons be given to us. We will hang their dead bodies*+ before Jehovah in Gibʹe·ah+ of Saul, the chosen one of Jehovah.”+ The king then said: “I will hand them over.”
7 However, the king showed compassion for Me·phibʹo·sheth,+ the son of Jonʹa·than the son of Saul, because of the oath made before Jehovah between David and Jonʹa·than,+ the son of Saul. 8 So the king took Ar·moʹni and Me·phibʹo·sheth, the two sons of Rizʹpah+ the daughter of Aʹiah whom she bore toSaul, and the five sons of Miʹchal*+ the daughter of Saul whom she bore to Aʹdri·el+the son of Bar·zilʹlai the Me·holʹath·ite. 9 Then he handed them over to the Gibʹe·on·ites, and they hung their dead bodies on the mountain before Jehovah.+All seven of them died together; they were put to death in the first days of harvest, at the start of the barley harvest. 10 Then Rizʹpah+ the daughter of Aʹiah took sackcloth and spread it out on the rock from the start of harvest until rain poured down from the heavens on the bodies; she did not allow the birds of the heavens to land on them by day nor the wild beasts of the field to come near by night.
Also lets not forget Jeptha...