Posts by freemindfade

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Is it Wrong to Doubt or Even Disagree With the GB? The Watchtower Reasoning....

by freemindfade in

this would be a good one for jw apologist who scream and panic with anyone who feels the moral direction of the wt publishing company has gone astray.

a comment at the bible highlights last night blew my mind, here is the article that was referenced.

btw this account always bothered me, remember when it was in a drama?

freemindfade

Then we are F%@#ed... the Lion is coming to eat us, but its the desert god's not satan this time.

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Is it Wrong to Doubt or Even Disagree With the GB? The Watchtower Reasoning....

by freemindfade in

this would be a good one for jw apologist who scream and panic with anyone who feels the moral direction of the wt publishing company has gone astray.

a comment at the bible highlights last night blew my mind, here is the article that was referenced.

btw this account always bothered me, remember when it was in a drama?

This would be a good one for JW apologist who scream and panic with anyone who feels the moral direction of the WT publishing company has gone astray. A comment at the bible highlights last night blew my mind, here is the article that was referenced. BTW this account always bothered me, remember when it was in a drama? But i never thought of it this way before.

8 Things would have gone well with God’s prophet if he had continued on his journey back home. Almost immediately, however, he faced another test. “A certain old prophet was dwelling in Bethel,” states the Bible, “and his sons now came in and related to him” all that had taken place earlier that day. Upon hearing the report, the old man asks them to saddle an ass for him so that he might catch up with God’s prophet. Not long thereafter, he finds the prophet resting under a big tree and says: “Go with me to the house and eat bread.” When the man of the true God declines the invitation, the old man replies: “I too am a prophet like you, and an angel himself spoke to me by the word of Jehovah, saying, ‘Have him come back with you to your house that he may eat bread and drink water.’” But the Scriptures say: “He deceived him.”—1 Ki. 13:11-18.

9 Whatever might have been the old prophet’s motive, he lied. Perhaps the old man had at one time been a faithful prophet of Jehovah. I hate it when they say perhaps At this point, however, he was acting deceptively. The Scriptures strongly denounce such conduct. (Read Proverbs 3:32.) Deceitful ones not only hurt themselves spiritually but often harm others.

“He Went Back With” the Old Man

10 The prophet from Judah should have been able to see through the ruse of the old prophet. He could have asked himself, ‘Why would Jehovah send an angel to someone else with new instructions for me?’ The prophet could have asked Jehovah to clarify the direction, but the Scriptures do not indicate that he did so. Instead, “he went back with [the old man] that he might eat bread in his house and drink water.” Jehovah was not pleased. When the deceived prophet finally got on his way back to Judah, a lion found him and killed him. What a tragic end to his prophetic career!—1 Ki. 13:19-25.*

Yep! The young prophet from Judah should have seen through the older prophet. If the GB says do this, and its wrong and we go along with it, will the desert god send a lion to eat us???

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Facing up to the reality of the world

by purrpurr in

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since becoming atheist i have been paying more attention to world events and issues.

this is giving me some worry's when i see what's going on.

as a jw i could just dismiss stuff saying "armageddon is coming, jehovah will look after us" etc etc now of course i can't do that.

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purrpurr

You are at a phase. I found when I really let go and let it sink in, I had more peace than I ever did as a Jdub.

I find it horrifying to watch things like ISIS burning a man alive, but my confusion, sickness and disgust is much more troubling to think there is a higher power allowing this. There is no great good vs evil, just evil people, evil, actions, evil ideas.

You need to settle with the unknown, and the uncontrollable. That you are some what powerless to an indifferent universe, but incredibly powerful as a force for good around you.

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Potential for new meeting?

by campaign of hate in

i've mentioned it in a few threads, but i'd like to make it a thread of it's own.. i'm going to make the prediction the gb will schedule a new meeting once a month, starting in jan 2016, for watching the jw broadcasting program.

at the moment it's up to each cong to organize a viewing, but soon the gb will take over the arrangements.. i make this assumption based on the fact that they know that a substantial quantity of pubs are not tuning in every month.. by scheduling a meeting once a month, it's easier for the gb/elders/organisation to gauge how many people are watching, and to make sure everyone is fully indoctrinated with what the gb are saying.

it will also keep the rank and file busy busy busy.. if i was a cult leader, that's what i would do.

freemindfade

I agree with _Morpheus,

I think the only ones they want watching the Broadcasts are the heavy koolaid drinkers. They have to know anyone waking up will be snapped out by that crap.

Also I think the trend has been less meetings and days at assemblies slowly for a while. So I think they use this as a card in their deck t appease the masses. They wont add another weekly meeting ever. The thing that gets witnesses rocks off now is "special" meetings and programs.

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Facing up to the reality of the world

by purrpurr in

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friends

since becoming atheist i have been paying more attention to world events and issues.

this is giving me some worry's when i see what's going on.

as a jw i could just dismiss stuff saying "armageddon is coming, jehovah will look after us" etc etc now of course i can't do that.

freemindfade

Sorry I'm probably not gonna think this one through and spew out a ton of things.

One thing I remember is the universe is indifferent. Witnesses in their world preach non-stop persecution complex and how evil satan is (good vs evil). But really the universe is not good vs evil. It's just indifferent.

Sometimes it's hard to see from our perspective, but we do live in a very peaceful time. Part of this problem is the digesting world events are piped in clearer and faster than ever. I just watched a world war 2 documentary the other day. You can't even imagine the shit mess and on the brink the world was. Not to mention how man people died was stagering with a huge proportion being civilians.

So I guess you need to find peace in how you have no control. And yet at the same time you by being the change you want to see can improve things.

The home grown terror attacks thay happen here in America always get my anger up, partly because I find islam disgusting like most religion. But did you know that homegrown terrorist have killed many many more than any Muslim nut job in america? It's true. Like the kid who shot up the church, Timothy McVey and on and on. But the way the media feeds us ISIS is going to kill all of us. Yes they are horrible and treating full of bad ideas and so on. But what we see of "world events" is groomed and edited and fed to us in a way to condition us just like advertising. It's not a giant conspiracy just human nature

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Freethoughtify Blog

by StinkyPantz2.0 in

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my name is bridget, and im the creator and writer for freethoughtify.

i will have lots of posts about my life as a jw and how things are as an ex-jw atheist: http://www.freethoughtify.com/about-freethoughtifys-creator/.

please check it out and sign up for new posts: http://www.freethoughtify.com/.

freemindfade

Hello. Can't wait to check it out.

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What are you up to this summer?

by Xanthippe in

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i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.

freemindfade

oh no... you never watched Seinfeld????

Thats a greater sin than apostasy!

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

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Talking With The Dead? -j F Rutherford

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What are you up to this summer?

by Xanthippe in

jw
friends

i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.