Posts by freemindfade

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Is the two-witness rule really unreasonable?

by stillin in

i'm picturing a situation in which a savvy 12 year old doesn't like the house rules that mom's new husband has put into place.

or something along that line.

i can certainly agree that protection of children is paramount, but who protects the real victim in those cases?

freemindfade

It shouldn't matter. Because the org and elders should have the brains and humility to step aside when someone comes to them with criminal allegations.

They should contact the police and let then start working on it then deal with their fantasy spiritual JC bullshit later.

At the crux of all this is their arrogance to day elders are not legal experts but to still turn it first into a congregation matter where it has the potential to keep a molester free from jail. Dumb ass elders shouldn't even have to decide two witness matter or the like, because at thay point it should be a police investigation.

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What I believe to be true- and how I have come to believe it.

by defender of truth in

i apologise if this story has already been posted.. it gave me hope... hope that even those who ignore their doubts and bury themselves can awaken, and become authentic people who just want to make the world a better place.

both man and wife woke up at the same time.. great thoughts on the meaning of life and humanities potential towards the end... www.medium.com/keep-learning-keep-growing/what-i-believe-to-be-true-and-how-i-have-come-to-believe-it-13df821c3ed.

freemindfade

It's amazing. I read it regularly

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Why are none of the 'Governing Body' being summoned to any of the abuse commissions?

by GodZoo in

i'm not sure if this has been covered but i'm wondering why none of the gb are being requested at or formally summoned to any of the australian abuse commissions or other investigations that are taking place around the world?

they after all are the ones single handedly responsible for making and enforcing all the rules that are the sole cause of all these abuses and problems.. why are they just keeping their silent distance and leaving all the ill-equipped and sadly incompetent local elders exposed to take the full public blast, criticism and humiliation for all that is now being brought out in these investigations?

how are they seemingly able to sit cosy in their ivory tower immune and unaccountable?.

freemindfade

insulation

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Going to a bad place when i die

by 060702015 in

i've thought and said too much to ever gain jehovahs forgiveness and love if i want to be a christian again.

i made a topic on my unforgivable sin and blaspemy of the holy spirit.. i feel saddness everyday having no relationship with god, no religion and fear of the afterlife.

even when i was kid i feared death and the end of the world.

freemindfade

Don't worry, all us cool people will be in hell, the hookers, rockstars and so on. It ill be the cool place to be!

Witnesses are not living as happy a life as their stepford smiles would lead you to believe, trust me. They are a ticking time bomb of nerves most of them. Take a deep breath and go enjoy the life you are fortunate enough to have and experience.

Also what _morpheus said is true. You can get to a place where you have so much peace, you just haven't found your way all the way there yet.

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JW Reaction to Royal Commission Reports

by maksutov in

has anybody confronted any jws with the royal commission reports on the news yet?

i showed my 8-year old daughter a newspaper headline about it, and when she told my jw wife that the jws in australia were in trouble for not reporting over 1,000 child abusers to police, her response was "oh, really?

well, i don't know what the rules are over there.

freemindfade

Told my wife "JW's are harmful, google news search Jehovah's Witnesses and see whats happening in Australia". It's as if I didn't say anything at all. Like the words never existed and she never heard them.

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This is getting more and more disgusting: "JW Abuse Victim Told to Bottle Her Tears"

by cappytan in

it took six years and three trials before a senior official in the jehovah's witness church was jailed for sexually abusing his daughter.. the only support the jehovah's witnesses gave the woman was to tell her to" put her tears in a skin bottle".. .

source: http://goo.gl/pjgy7p.

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freemindfade

wow... when in doubt quote obscure, strange sounding, bronze age scriptures that will sound utterly culty and bizarre in a trial. This stuff is making them out to be giant assholes!

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Uh-Oh, JW's are confused by the news reporting... Getting texts from active members

by thedepressedsoul in

you can refer to me as a still in mole.

anyway, i've been getting texts from jw's about the australia news.

the general census is that the jw's are very, very confused.

freemindfade

This thing is gonna be going on for many more days and the its getting attention and serious hits, it could make it to more and more mainstream media. Im impressed with the amount of exposure its had in two days, wonder how it will look a week from now?

And yes it is in Australia, but it is an American religion (eh hem cult), that has worldwide reach and controversy over the years. People find witnesses odd and generally wouldn't pay much attention, but the media feeds peoples hunger for scandal and bad news and atrocities (sad but true). So i am not surprised this could reach far outside Australia.

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"Do you realise how inappropriate that is?!"

by stuckinarut2 in

in the australian royal commission enquiry into child abuse and the way institutions handle such is underway.. today the judge said the following in response to the way judicial committees operate:.

(not verbatim...but the gist of his comments are:).

"so a young woman, a suspected victim of abuse or someone accused of a sin, would have to appear before three older men in a 'judicial committee' and relate in detail her ordeal?

freemindfade

It is utterly inappropriate, for anyone to be isolated in a JC, especially a victim of sex crime. Its disgusting.

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"Do you realise how inappropriate that is?!"

by stuckinarut2 in

in the australian royal commission enquiry into child abuse and the way institutions handle such is underway.. today the judge said the following in response to the way judicial committees operate:.

(not verbatim...but the gist of his comments are:).

"so a young woman, a suspected victim of abuse or someone accused of a sin, would have to appear before three older men in a 'judicial committee' and relate in detail her ordeal?

freemindfade

I hope Australia becomes the catalyst for a massive exposure of this god damned cult

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Almost said too much"....... maybe

by Bigdummy in

the wife was getting ready for the sunday meeting yesterday and wanted the grandkids.

they didn't want to so she called our daughter to come and pick them .

now wife is about to cry because she is going by herself.

freemindfade

Good for you.