Good point. I think sometimes the shenanigans involved, small dishonesties become huge "cover ups". And the tin foil hats go on.
There is no conspiracy about jfk. ;)
Never stab fiends in the back.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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And another thing, there seems to be an all inclusive assumption that
believing a conspiracy theory (regardless of what it is) = Some sort of brainwashing
This basically would imply that every conspiracy theory is wrong, simply by being a conspiracy theory. That doesn't seem like unbiased critical thinking to me.
I am not talking about the moon landing or cow mutilations, I am talking about the broad brush used because so many of those things are wacky. CRAZY THINGS HAVE TURNED OUT TRUE IN THE PAST.(watergate?) That should mean that they are not all true, just as much as they are all true.
When the moon landing madness is addressed thats good, when its just an attack those who wear the tin foil hats () thats a little extreme. Sometimes conspiracies do come true....
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Who would Jehovah Vote For In 2016?
by BashfulAshG inwe all know that jws don't vote, but hypothetically, who would jehovah or the gb vote for and why?.
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I retract dionysus
YHWH the all knowing desert god, with his eternal wisdom and justice would Vote for ...
Bill Clinton
no... he's not running, but its god we are talking about here. He can do what he wants, and i think he knows we need more BJ's in the oval office and such to get this country back on track!
Actually Old Testament God would vote for ISIS new testament god.. Bill Clinton
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Who would Jehovah Vote For In 2016?
by BashfulAshG inwe all know that jws don't vote, but hypothetically, who would jehovah or the gb vote for and why?.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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I think more witnesses who are "in" than "out" are as LisaRose said. What I hear from exjw's and jwjw's is usually not the same. While we may discuss and joke about it here, I think in witnesses take them much much more seriously with little investigation.
i think there is also a difference with the anti-conspiracy folks, most the people on here providing the facts to disprove the theories do their research and do understand the allegations and the reasons they are not true, but there are also people outside of here, or maybe even some who don't get as involved who will deny a conspiracy theory simply for the fact they believe "america would never do that". And not really base their conclusion on facts either just like the person who accepts it because it sounds cool.
As i have said before, even though I have stirred the pot, I am like most who don't believe most based on facts, but I don't believe in teasing or deriding someone who distrusts and established way of thinking. I do believe its good to help them see the facts without trying to call them fools. Distrust of what is presented to you as truth is what got a lot of people out of the org. But I see a high and mighty reaction from many that I think is uncalled for. Even if someone is claiming to accept one of these things, you can help them see the facts without calling them a chump for questioning what they have been told is true. Mocking them will not help their critical thinking skills as much as showing them.
I think it is a healthy exercise to entertain an idea that , fictitious or not, exercises your brain against bias. If we were all in the "troof" still and one of us heard the jw religion was lying about something, or hiding something (conspiracy), would we insult them? Mock them? I don't think so, you want them to take that step of distrust to begin searching for their own answers.
Again, this is the only reason I play devils advocate on things like this:
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
I don't think anyone should speak so harshly towards those who express distrust in status quo. That being said its ok to help them see the facts without belittling them.
People get fooled everyday, bullshit is everywhere, and even superior minds that can debate the best of them and make claims to the best critical thinking could get taken advantage of by a high-school drop our with street smarts and charm.
Be nice, like Kepler, he did an awesome job
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2007 Awake mentions Child Abuse in Australia!
by SG098 inin the october 2007 awake!
page 11, the b0rg had the audacity to say this concerning child sexual abuse: "sadly, though, most of such [child abuse] crimes go unpunished by authorities today.
in australia, for example, it has been estimated that only 10 percent of offenders are prosecuted, and few are convicted.
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Holy crap!
So they hide pedo's from the authorities, contribute a massive part to the problem in one country, and all the while this was going on, they say crap like this. reporting on a problem they are in fact a large part of causing.
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What are JWs saying about the Royal Commission?
by LexIsFree ini am wondering if there are any pro-jw blogs/sites that any of you visit and whether or not jws are aware of what is going on in australia.
also, what is there reaction to it?
(i may already know the answer to that last question.
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Prediction imminent:
Because this is an American Based Protestant religion, and one of the GB, Geoffrey, is going to be involved now, that connection back to the U.S. may get it some more coverage. I am not saying top of the google list, but something.
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What are JWs saying about the Royal Commission?
by LexIsFree ini am wondering if there are any pro-jw blogs/sites that any of you visit and whether or not jws are aware of what is going on in australia.
also, what is there reaction to it?
(i may already know the answer to that last question.
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My spouse gave no rebuttal. Normally she would make some claim to the something like the conti case, and down play with with JW rhetoric, when I told her about the ARC she said "Its awful what happening". thats all. Not sure how much she knows about outside of what I have told her, I think at this point she is just trying to ignore the issue. -
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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sometimes
Im sorry viv I'll try to grow up
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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North Korea who just made designated their own time zone? lol You might be right about that, they probably state that America did not make it to the moon in 1969, it was in fact Kim Jong Un had used a time machine to go back and do it himself.
And that is pretty cool you got to meet Aleksei Leonov, very nice post Kepler.
