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  Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

  by OrphanCrow in

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  deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

  the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

  " she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

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  We NEVER keep a database of the deaf...

  
  
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  Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

  by OrphanCrow in

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  deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

  the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

  " she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

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  Jehovah Witness spokesman Rod Spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.

  MORE LIES!!!

  wow. I hate this religion. They have no problem out right lying. I know they do for a fact, maybe not "official deaf database" but I know many who were involved in specific congregations and territories for the deaf. wow. How do you have a 'deaf territory' without a list/database/something keeping track of where they are.

  When they find the data base, witnesses will say oh that? That's not a database, thats not what we call it, its blah blah blah. See we didn't lie.

  f-ck your lying cult.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  Another thought for today, in the way we are doing this, if we can show how many are anonymously expressing their desire to leave, if that number is much higher than those that actually DA, that should send a powerful message out that this religion is not playing nice...
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  I feel December 10th is the best day, i think we need to settle on a date and move along with the next pieces.

  The human rights issue I think is at the root of what makes this organization 'evil'. Yes there are many things they do wrong, and are wrong about etc. But the crux of it is the fact it is a captive religion. Their policies of shunning/disfellowshipping/apostasy etc I feel violate Article 12 and 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

  I will also write this into the mission, that this action we take is to bring attention that an american based organization systematically violates human rights, while being protected under the very Declaration they disregard. The mass DA needs to reach the HQ, the local level and the media to bring this cause to a head. Its not a doctrine issue, or a difference of opinion that has brought us to this point, it is the captive and abusive nature of this group that hides behind standards it itself cannot keep.

  Cappy... what date should we set for the site to be complete? And what else do we need to get it going?
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  Are The Governing Body Anointed?

  by freemindfade in

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  for any lurkers, i just want to put a thought out there for you.

  like me maybe during your life as a jw the "thing" that causes someone to know if they are anointed was always a bit of mystery, except to those who claimed they knew.

  i had heard it explained to me many ways, and like many things i just said "ok, well thats an answer... i guess".

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  Listener you got my point exactly. Well said
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  Interesting!
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  My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

  by Perry in

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  none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

  just found out this morning.

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  That's true perry. No one can take that away. Focus on that.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Annual meeting passed but human rights day is good

  I was just talking about how they violate articles 12 and 18 of the universal declaration of human rights
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  Your Religion Is Dispicable

  by freemindfade in

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  http://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/world/jehovahs-witnesses-in-prison-2/.

  the witnesses make reference to article 18 of the international covenant on civil and political rights, in reference to their not being able to practice their religion in certain places.

  how despicable when (in my mind) their policy of disfellowshipping, apostasy, etc, causes them coerce members to keep this religion.

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  http://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/world/jehovahs-witnesses-in-prison-2/

  The witnesses make reference to Article 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, in reference to their not being able to practice their religion in certain places.

  How despicable when (in my mind) their policy of Disfellowshipping, Apostasy, etc, causes them coerce members to keep this religion. In my mind they are violators of this very Article.

  Disgusting.
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  Are The Governing Body Anointed?

  by freemindfade in

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  for any lurkers, i just want to put a thought out there for you.

  like me maybe during your life as a jw the "thing" that causes someone to know if they are anointed was always a bit of mystery, except to those who claimed they knew.

  i had heard it explained to me many ways, and like many things i just said "ok, well thats an answer... i guess".

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  freemindfade

  Yep

  My whole point is isn't the same voice that is telling them they are going to heaven telling them how to interpret doctrine?? If one is always wrong couldn't the other be equally as WRONG