this is related to a comment i made in a previous thread.
cults exist in many diverse parts of society.
this includes politics.
I wouldn't disagree trump displays the characteristics of a cult leader. But I also find most high profile in politicians do as well being mostly narcissistic.
But to the point trying to be made by the other clowns on here. "Trump" is not an ideology, and just because you call someone a "follower" or "supporter" doesn't make that a reality.
this is related to a comment i made in a previous thread.
cults exist in many diverse parts of society.
this includes politics.
One party is pushing the emotional manipulation buttons. Its not the right. Not lately anyway. Both parties used to have a spectrum of ideologies inside them. The overton window of the extreme left is closing around that spectrum on the left. Making it dogmatic. You can be "right" and support legal weed, gay marriage etc. On the left if you question any single dogma like there are innumerable genders you are disfellowshippred from the left and labeled alt right for not toeing the shrinking ideological line. Sam Harris is a great example of the shrinking spectrum of the left. Hes now considered to be alt right because of his views on islam.
this is related to a comment i made in a previous thread.
cults exist in many diverse parts of society.
this includes politics.
You my friend definitely are delusional with your self righteousness, paranoia and black and white view of the world. You went from Watchtower to Trumptower
I consider myself neither left or right wing, I do see as posted above far more totalitarian intolerance from the left currently. And it doesnt seem to end. And you are are wrong dipshit, trumptower??? If trump defends the constitution that's good. If he endorsed things I consider wise like legalizing weed I like it. If he does things I don't agree with. Then I don't like him. Just like any president. You are strawmaning me and many others who refuse to denounce trump when its not called for. That is critical thinking. He does bad. Call it bad, he does good call it good. He does neither, don't make shit up because you just want to cry like a baby about everything because you are a sanctimonious idiot.
this is related to a comment i made in a previous thread.
cults exist in many diverse parts of society.
this includes politics.
Leftism is a dangerous ideology. I don't consider it to be liberal or progressive. Its an intolerant arrogant movement that history has taught us has a bad ending.
Anyone ever hear of O'Sullivan's law?
O’Sullivan’s Law
O’Sullivan’s Law states that any organization or enterprise that is not expressly right wing will become left wing over time. The law is named after British journalist John O’Sullivan.
Television shows are the best examples of this. 24, House. Charitable foundations are worse but harder to see.
One of the reasons for this is leftist intolerance versus right-wing tolerance. Right wingers are willing to hire openly left-wing employees in the interest of fairness. Left-wingers, utterly intolerant, will not allow a non-Liberal near them, and will harass them at every opportunity. The result over time is that conservative enterprises are infiltrated by leftists but leftist enterprises remain the same or get worse.
Also, leftism is in and of itself a form of decay. It’s what happens not just to television shows but to nations, churches and universities as the energy given off by the big bang of their inception slowly ebbs away. Rather than expend vitality in originality and creation they become obsessed with introspection, popularity and lethargy. Leftism is entropy of the spirit and intellect.
if everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
i mean, the law about separating children from their fathers crossing southern us border have been in the books since before obama's era.
the thing is that enforcing that law it has become a public relations disaster for the trump administration.
there's also to much animosity in latin america too, remember the classic agitator "u.s. is the evil empire that treat us badly just to see always their own interests".
Every time I read a Trump's supporter explanation of what he really meant, it sounds so much like a JW excusing the GB.
"Trump Supporter" is an epithet for the weak minded who try to "win" discussions by trying to morally elevate themselves by making whoever is disagreeing with them seem not as virtuous as them. Its the ultimate "I have no decent point to make so let me hit this straw man" move.
I don't care who the freaking president is, I support policy, the god damn function of the president is not a king, not a dictator, simply someone who is the executive of the peoples office, somewhere along the line you knuckleheads have elevated the person that holds this office to some god-king over the masses. Talk about delusional.
Like if I argue about this immigration thing, Trump has not defined my views on it whatsoever. And I or anyone else who would defend him are usually doing so against a wave of irrational, emotionally charged, crybabies who literally blame this asshole for everything.
Trump does something bad, say its bad, he does something good, you aren't in a cult if you agree. But if he doesn't do anything good or bad, don't lose your sanity trying to make up something bad.
JWS, GB, yea they have negatives we all know pretty well, I am not going to make things up and blame them for every woe in society.
"Trump supporter" can now include someone talking about something he's probably not even talked about, but it doesn't check the leftist dogma checklist. Its forbidden speech, ooooo the unbeliever, lets shame and shun them for not agreeing. Don't know if radical leftism is a cult or not, but the group think is definitely staggering
if everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
Some on the abortion spectrum would say babies in the womb at some stage are as you said "living children"
I'm pro-choice, but I get the point.
They are acting like they care about kids and life, fetus's don't vote democrat so they don't care.
Don't you think its odd on MSNBC all of the sudden these clowns start quoting the bible like televangelists when its something that supports their narrative?
if everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
I'm pro-choice even though I am not a fan of it as form a birth control, I am still pretty libertarian about it. The point is well made, Democrats just want to push the culture button du jour, their virtuous grandstanding is just power plays, those who pretend its otherwise are fooling themselves.
if everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
They play the culture like a fiddle
i like trump but i would be reticent wearing that hat.🤠.
What is it -- right now (or 2016,if you prefer) -- about America that isn't great? (Be specific.)
We are in the midst of an ideological civil war, that hopefully doesn't materialize into a real civil war. This I believe is not being pushed by the majority of Americans but smaller, louder factions. Trump and his rhetoric push the divide, the keepers of the culture (MSM, celebrities, universities) push further and further the other way. if you have to ask me which came first the chicken (trump) or the egg (lefist culture) as far as the flash point, i would have to say the fault lies in the left. Trump was a gift from the left, not the right.
When was this time that the word 'again' implies? When was it exactly that those who endorse this slogan believe that America "was great"?
I firmly believe America can never be perfect, and "good" has not been a destination but a pursuit. America is an ideology, and to say "great again", I think is to say put it back on its track that got us many great things that have come from the American experiment. Not just for America but for the world.
What does a "great" America look like? Is it a reference to the fifties? Eighties? Pre 911? Pre political correctness?
Again, similar answer to above. We have a disaster of people thinking everything bad America has done is the result of America being bad. But the reality is, for most of human history on earth, life for people has not been very good at all. Until the European enlightenment, that gave rise to the principles that make America. A lot of the bad things have been done away with, including things America was at first involved in, IE slavery. America didn't invent slavery, most of the world since the rise of agriculture employed slavery, AMERICA ENDED IT. People forget. That's where the genius ideas of the founding fathers are what matters. It gives us the tools to make things better.
A great America looks like one of ultimate freedom and sovereignty of the individual. A culture that nurtures self-reliance and love of liberty. Again a progressive pursuit, not a specific time.
Why exactly do they think that America "was great" then, but not now?
The things I mentioned above: ultimate freedom and sovereignty of the individual. A culture that nurtures self-reliance and love of liberty. Again a progressive pursuit, not a specific time. All seem to be in danger, and new Marxist mentality is rising up and it threatens the trajectory to continue this progress and return to pre-enlightenment tribalism!
What values and beliefs are implicit in accepting this slogan and everything that goes with it?
Not a fan of political slogans, but i think this one is a return to the principles that started America. The idea of liberty over government elitism and political compulsion of speech and thought.
Correspondingly, what values and beliefs does accepting this slogan require a person to thereby reject?
That America is evil. America is bad. The reality of America is the story of western ideas and enlightenment out of darkness. American is not the tyranny and oppression leftists would have you think it is, but the system that OVERCAME those things. The world is in a pretty good place despite what leftists and JWS would have you believe, people have more than ever, live longer, things are actually really good, but people have also lost their gratitude. So really maybe America is the greatest its ever been, but if we undermine what got it here, we risk losing it all. America didn't always do great things, but it gave us what we need to pursue great things. Freedom
