If this turns out to be more than a rumor, i might take chances of starting my own brainwashing cult called Karl's Lemmings and prove were all going to end up in an episode of the simpsons.
Posts by KW13
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Rumor alert: GB talk Jesus had 7 comings
by truthseeker inthis is reposted from e-watchman with follow up posts, but i thought if it were true, it would be a major breakthrough and embarassment for the society.... http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=658&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0.
a new talk outline not yet released to the congregations was recently given in miami by a gb member (llsch ?).
it is titled "what the future holds".
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LOOK AT WHAT I ORDERED!!!! :)
by kittyeatzjdubs ini've lately become addicted to amazon.com.
especially when i found out that you can buy used books as low as $2 to a penny.
anyway...so i was surfing around and i thought, ''i wonder if they have any instruments...'' and they do.
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KW13
wow, thats cool...wish i could play an instrument like that! Enjoy it :)
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What Makes You Read & Post On This Site?
by minimus inonce again, there's a lot of new people on this board as well as us "oldsters".
what was the original reason for you looking at this site and why did you make your first post?
and why do you stay here?
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KW13
Partly its a therapy for us all, the witnesses cut you out and patch up the hole when you leave. We need people who've experienced the pain we've felt and what we've suffered. No JW can truly say they looked at the evidence, the evidence they have for all their beliefs is from the Society and that means its biased. Here we have all the evidence, we weigh it against other evidence and come to a clear conclusion. The bible isnt a mystery as the jw's make people believe, and each scripture can stand on its own, and against history. It doesn't need books written by man to explain each scripture because that allows for mans agenda to take over, and in this case greed for money. The society is rich. Do we set out to destroy the JW's religion? Personally i don't, and although its not going to happen, if i was shown that the JW's had it right, i would apologise. My motives for showing them what i've seen, heard and experienced arent to knock their faith, i am showing them the 'truth' about the 'truth' they take to peoples doors, they take on such a responsibility and drastically change lives, i don't put myself out there and alter what i am not sure of because if i am wrong, i am to blame. People who leave suffer (as i did) from depression and varied problems, some even get so bad as to take their life. That is the effect of a cult and i know not what God would cause to happen, if he is in the midst of any people on this planet its not them. Socially this site is amazing, people all over the world share their view, and honestly i love to read what people say, because unlike the JW's i am not afraid, i have nothing to defend and i even set out to PROVE them right rather than myself right, there is no bias and i am open minded.
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Explaining to JWs they are not a superior lot
by greendawn inhow would you explain to them that they are not really better than the rest of society and that their religion is not superior to serious christian religions?
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that their superiority complex is based on a lot of hot air in their leaders' heads.
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apart from showing them the lies, i would also suggest that a there is no organization just for God, that his original chosen people failed to keep to his words, and that really no one belonged to anything or anyone but Christ, and that his gift mentioned in ephesians isn't from works...also where in the bible do they come in...
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Goin' back
by fullofdoubtnow inno, not to the jws, never again.
it was always my ambition pre - jw to be an english teacher.
i have a degree in english, but i thought it was too late, after so many years, to pursue my original career plans.
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KW13
WOW well good luck with that, i hope it all works out for ya! you'll have to get used to the 'miss' thing though :D
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wow cool and again thanks :D
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Thanks guys, you've been really helpful. So i got this... The 70 years refers to WHEN God spoke to the king not when the exile ended as jw's teach. That correct?
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KW13
Well its been an interesting evening. Firstly thank-you for your links and comments, they have helped. As for me i quoted and even dug out Encarta, Britannica and other websites that SAY 586/7 NOT 607. Mum so far is a bit overwhelmed but i can see she is wondering why other references (all others) disagree with the Daniel Book. (published by the WBT not the bible book) Now please i ask that someone helps me complete my arguement, my mum has seen for herself lies, but she still is confused on the 70 years part...anyone want to help me and her by typing this clearly and simply? i have read others listed but mainly its about proving the destruction of the temple and my brain is going numb. To be honest i have prayed that God help me with this situation, and that any agenda other than his doesn't take over the whole discussion. Please, help. Regards KW13 (Karl)
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yo people, a question... Witnesses are studying the Daniel book and i wanted to know if i can prove any of the prophecy in there is wrong, for example what book or resource can i prove 607bce is wrong.
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Good Morning Apostates!!
by Andy C inah, another fine day in apostaland.
question of the day: what makes you think you are right?
maybe you are headed down that broad and spacious road, something to think about.
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KW13
if someone you wanted to trust kept burning you, you'd leave. The society mentally burn people who just honestly want to serve god. We don't think we are right here, we listen and weigh up evidence, people consent to being wrong.