It is true that we must be doing something right, otherwise this place and many like it wouldn't exist, i think you made an excellent point about how the Society is a rod for its own back, its own worst enemy and the more it tries to undo this mess the worse it gets because of course there is a trail.
Posts by KW13
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by KW13 inwe know that these days information on just about everything is widely available.
one or two clicks, a google search and a hole is blown in the watchtower society's cover.
i remember once, on the weekend i was staying at my dad's i was searching for the watchtower society website when i found an 'apostate' site.
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Damage Limitation
by KW13 inwe know that these days information on just about everything is widely available.
one or two clicks, a google search and a hole is blown in the watchtower society's cover.
i remember once, on the weekend i was staying at my dad's i was searching for the watchtower society website when i found an 'apostate' site.
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We know that these days information on just about everything is widely available. One or two clicks, a Google Search and a hole is blown in the Watchtower Society's Cover. I remember once, on the weekend i was staying at my Dad's i was searching for the Watchtower Society website when i found an 'apostate' site. Nearly eight years on, i come to this Site. Maybe the site i visited that day planted a seed, i remember my terror when i realised where i'd ended up, i worried that somehow i'd be discovered for my sin and my mind was racing running over the lies i'd been told - perhaps the apostates could somehow see me?
The Society uses various tactics to limit Damage to its already near sunken Vessel, if something cannot be defended its taught its members to smear individuals that pose a threat.
Atheist or Believers we are all Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses - people like us have seen through the clouds of smoke, the corruption and lies and have seen something that we probably didn't want to believe was true and all we've taken is punishment for it. We've been hurt emotionally and we were left to pick-up the pieces.
So how do we get back at the Society in a constructive manner and 'free peoples minds'?
I think simply being happy does work, i agree with that but i also believe we need to be vocal. In the confused mind of each and every Jehovah's Witness is a door and behind that door is the dawning realization that the Society are wrong, that they are wrong. It takes guts to admit it.
Realization is a long and slow process that from the Pro-Witness standpoint is like a virus eating away at us when actually its the death of what was and the beginning of the real you, the person you are supposed to be. Thank God we stuck that out because technically the cleverly engineered lies from the Society are supposed to be fool proof.
We take a risk by being vocal about what we've discovered i admit, but some of us have seen the benefits of taking that chance. For example an old friend of mine who i am partially responsible for coming into the 'truth' has since left, he and i met properly again only yesterday and its like he never went in the religion. The reasons he left were different from mine so i am happy to know that the only problem he has is the wasted time and he's doing his best to make up for that. His family cannot accept he's happy now he's without the Organization as his prop, afterall he is living with a woman who has children from a previous marriage but honestly i've never seen someone so content with his life.
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Should Jehovah's Witnesses honestly expect people to Respect their Beliefs?
by KW13 inhow can jehovah's witnesses honestly be suprised when someone cannot keep their opinions to themselves and take witnesses seriously when 99.9% of them are loyal to the organization before common sense?
(the rest of that percentage are here lol).. is this why the society put so much emphasis on the joys of persecution in the name of jehovah?
because they know that it is being done for all the 'right' reasons?
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How can Jehovah's Witnesses honestly be suprised when someone cannot keep their opinions to themselves and take Witnesses seriously when 99.9% of them are loyal to the Organization before Common Sense? (the rest of that percentage are here lol).
Is this why the Society put so much emphasis on the joys of persecution in the name of Jehovah? Because they know that it is being done for all the 'right' reasons? (excluding violence of course)
Also; with the latest Blood Transfusion disaster with Emma - Should she of expected her needs to be met fully in such difficult circumstances and who do you feel the blame lies with? I ask openly for both sides of this arguement. My view is, if her Religion didn't have such stupid rules in the first place that this situation wouldn't of even occur.
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607 BCE - Jehovah's Witnesses come out and Defend your Beliefs.
by KW13 inwhen was the end of the 70 years?
the bible clearly states that the end of the 70 years would be when the king of babylon (namely nebuchadnezzar) was called to account.
what date was this?
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Scholar using your literature, the dates the Kings Ruled.
Nabonidus: 17 Years
Labashi-Marduk: Less than 9 Months
Neriglissar - 4 Years
Evil-Merodach - 2 Years
2 yrs Nebuchadnezzar II 43 Years
ALL THESE DATES COME FROM WBT Society Literature.
Add the years of all these together...
66 Years and 9 Months. 539 + 66 Years = 605...
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607 BCE - Jehovah's Witnesses come out and Defend your Beliefs.
by KW13 inwhen was the end of the 70 years?
the bible clearly states that the end of the 70 years would be when the king of babylon (namely nebuchadnezzar) was called to account.
what date was this?
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deaconbluez that is the same tablet i was referring to yes.
as for the kings list, dotted around different literature over the years they've provided the times different kings ruled and as said it doesnt support 607.
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607 BCE - Jehovah's Witnesses come out and Defend your Beliefs.
by KW13 inwhen was the end of the 70 years?
the bible clearly states that the end of the 70 years would be when the king of babylon (namely nebuchadnezzar) was called to account.
what date was this?
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When was the end of the 70 Years? The Bible clearly states that the end of the 70 years would be when the King of Babylon (namely Nebuchadnezzar) was called to Account. What date was this? 539 BCE. (Read Jeremiah 25). The 70 Years was not only applied to Jerusalem but also to 'Surrounding Nations'. If you count 539 BCE and Add 70 Years you get? Yes thats right 609, the date that the Assyrians were defeated by the Babylonians. This not only fits in with Scripture but also with History, unfortunately despite supporting both the above it fails to support the teaching of the Watchtower Society. I Once took the Liberty to Contact the British Musuem which i still have the emails from, these went against what the Society claims. I recommend anyone looking to fill any gaps in their Knowledge take a quick peak at the British Musuem Website and Search for the likes of Nebuchadnezzar, its Interesting. In the Insight book a particular Tablet from the British Musuem is there for all to see, only the Society claims it shows something other than what the British Musuem claims it does. Who is right? Who has more to lose by being wrong?
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Is Your Personality Quite Different In "Real" Life Than It Is Here?
by minimus inare you pretty much the same here as you are in real life??
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maybe it is, maybe it isn't. does that answer your question minimus pants :P
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What would you tell CHILDREN of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Magick ina lot of us grew up as jehovah's witnesses.
we had no choice.
our parents made the choice for us.
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KW13
Will have to pre-warn mine anyhow from me mother.
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Computer advice needed please
by Mr Ben ini can't find an answer on the net, any computer buffs out there who can help?.
when i bring dvd films from the shop they are always from different zones, but i am only allowed 3 more changes to the zone setting and then it will be fixed permanently on the last zone setting.
i can't find a way to disable this or increase the number of times i can allow the zone setting to change.. thanks in advance,.
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Download VLC Player - VLC Player allows you to play most media types including most regions of DVD. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html
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Mum aged 22 dies for Jehovah
by MidwichCuckoo in.
mum aged 22 dies for jehovah.... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article427045.ece.
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The mum decides it is better to save her own skin, by putting herself in a better position with Jehovah with the hope of a resurrection (key word being HOPE not a promise) rather than be there for her children RIGHT NOW who need their mum. Seriously, what are witnesses thinking? i'd rather lose the so called hope and put my children first, surely any reasonable God would not respect a mother for abandoning their children for a selfish reason like this. Everlasting life is nothing when you think of the pain these kids are gonna go through growing up.