a few folks i know were vineyard attenders and i've heard many positive things about it. the nearest one to me is in Manchester i think.
Posts by KW13
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I Received The Holy Spirit!
by Maddie ini want to share with you all a most wonderful experience i have just had.
i have been going to a christian church called the vineyard.
they have a live band and lots of singing goes on there.
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Have u found a new faith since leaving?
by chuckyy ini was just wondering how many of you have found a "new faith" since leaving the jw"s. for instance, are u a member of another church, another religion, or are u now a committed atheist.
if u have found a new faith, what convinces you that its the right one?.
chukyy.
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KW13
I'm not saying i have no faith in God, just no faith in Organized Religion. I found it necessary for me to have my 'holy fix' when i left the witnesses by attending Church, it did me good and taught me a lot of valuable lessons and helped me see what was what in life. The Witnesses were my Heroine, the Church was my Methadone.
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Are You a Glass Half Full Type Person ? Optimist or Pessimist ?
by flipper inwe've all heard the cliches .
" when the going get's tough, the tough get going .
" etc., etc., ...... " better to have loved and lost .... than never loved at all.
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depends, when i'm down the glass is rarely full but on a good day its overflowing, i never got the middle road unfortunately (although thanks to a strict regime someone here helped me with, its improved greatly!)
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Provide something for the Lurking ones desperate to see evidence!
by KW13 inthis isn't much in itself but i believe it is a reflection of what is to come!.
nbc jehovah's witnesses child sexual abuse video.http://youtube.com/watch?v=qlac9ks_eqm.
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KW13
all solid stuff, keep it coming and failing that keep smiling
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Learning your not all wise
by KW13 inas a witness, among the rank and file your a regular troop but out in the field, your a specialist with knowledge the world doesnt have, your special and all wise.
its a huge fall from grace when you become an apostate, some of us are still in denial!.
how long did it take you to see your not all wise?
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As a Witness, among the rank and file your a regular troop but out in the field, your a specialist with knowledge the World doesnt have, your special and all wise. Its a huge fall from grace when you become an apostate, some of us are still in denial!
How long did it take you to see your not all wise? The first realisation i'd been a total prat was when i first left, all the times people urged me to leave, the apostate fruitcakes outside the convention, they were acting out of love and i'd rejecting the actual truth, and openly ridiculed them. It is my goal to join the apostates outside the convention one year!
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Please Share Your Demon Experiences, Hearsay or Incredible Stories
by minimus inthis thread is dedicated to anything demon related.. go for it..
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Now that's funny KW....
well ya know me hope your alreet btw D', not seen you around for a while but saying that, i've not been here much either -
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Next step- I said goodbye to my best friend- and she was terrified of me!
by New light for you inso the next step i realized after meeting with the elders monday night was to say some "goodbyes" while i'm still able to.
now, the elders kept "wanting" me to "fade" .
.. again, many people are telling me that they might be nice, but when they report back to the whole body, they could decide something else.
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KW13
i'm sure thats very upsetting for you, but at least if anything she will remember what you did and how you did it. the witnesses make this such a complicated process, and they make it your fault (not out of evil usually but by brainwashing and confusion, an awful conflict. everlasting life or a nice friendship...oh the choice).
maybe how you behaved will help her leave one day, it might put her mind at ease that a kind person is waiting on the outside for her, that is sometimes enough to help someone leave and make that process a positive one.
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Why is it not enough for them?
by KW13 inwhy is it not enough for witnesses when you tell them that you made the choice not to be a witness yourself and for you, and your family if you have one?
surely they must see that its not quick, rushed, evil or anything if they take into consideration that it affects whether or not you live forever, how you live and all kinds of things and that a matter of life and death from their perspective and yours isnt made lightly?.
i love my wife and son and my mother.
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Why is it not enough for Witnesses when you tell them that you made the choice not to be a Witness yourself and for you, and your family if you have one? Surely they must see that its not quick, rushed, evil or anything if they take into consideration that it affects whether or not you live forever, how you live and all kinds of things and that a matter of life and death from their perspective and yours isnt made lightly?
I love my Wife and Son and my mother. If i believed me not being a Witness would ruin their chances of living forever in a beautiful paradise, i'd be a witness now, again. Nothing gives them the authority to judge our decisions and to then believe they are superior. Sure occasionally we laugh at the Witnesses, at their expense but its also a laugh at what we once were and that comes with a new kind of wisdom. The acceptance that nothing is 100% good, nothing is safe or pure and we are not untouchable.
*Sigh*
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Name something that JWs believe in that isn't in the Bible
by Awakened at Gilead inmy favorites are:.
"paradise earth": not in the bible.
"great crowd" of "other sheep" - two unrelated texts... put them together, and voila!, you just changed the destiny of millions!.
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1914, Faithful and Discreet Slave is Witnesses, Pyramid is Stone Witness of God, Blood Doctrine (amazing twist, like comparing War of the Worlds to the Sound of Music)
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Funny/strange things you ate as a kid.
by IP_SEC inok i'll start.. 13 y/o or so.. once it rained for a month straight.
we had an old dry tank dump in the back that filled up with water.
there were tons of frogs that showed up and started breeding.. i was looking at them on the edge of the water through my .22 scope.
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KW13
i used to eat the 10p mixup paper bags.