i see, well i am an Apostate by those terms!
Posts by KW13
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Are apostates bitter?
by KW13 infor anyone out there who think apostates are bitter, let me tell you...no they are not, and they're not apostates.
that is a label from jw's.. firstly, my story.
http://stjohnsmossley.org/karltestimony.htm.
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Are apostates bitter?
by KW13 infor anyone out there who think apostates are bitter, let me tell you...no they are not, and they're not apostates.
that is a label from jw's.. firstly, my story.
http://stjohnsmossley.org/karltestimony.htm.
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KW13
For anyone out there who think Apostates are bitter, let me tell you...No they are not, and they're not apostates. That is a label from JW's.
Firstly, my story. http://stjohnsmossley.org/Karltestimony.htm
Now to say, i left the witnesses in a position where i could of gone far. Priviledges though they were small, i became an unbaptized publisher and my talks in the ministry school were good.
i just was the religion for what is was.
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Again the people here, they are not AGAINST individual's or even god. They've had problems and troubles directly resulting from the WBT society or they've seen it for what it is.
Whatever anyone says, i know that i prayed and prayed to Jehovah to save me and to help me sort the situations i was in and he wasn't there.
The WBT society is not the truth, its a lie. Facts like the Witnesses change dates AFTER the event or not long before so they don't look stupid, the change of light is not a change of light, its basically where they are scared of been shown up.
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Hello Everyone, My First Time
by butterfliorchids inhi, i just got registered and am looking forward to getting to know others who have escaped from the controlled environment that i was so faithful to for so long.
i hope to meet others with similar backgrounds.
i've been out about 4yrs and love the feel of it, but to be honest, as much as a definiate decision it was on my part, there was still a long time of adjustment.
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KW13
hehe, look at the welcome you get here
Even though i've been out a couple of years, almost everyday i think of what happened to me as a witness as i am sure a lot here will do too!
You are among friends who i am sure will support you, welcome to the forum!!
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When did you realize that you were part of a cult?
by JH in.
as a jw, i never thought that i was in a cult.
i thought that other religions were a cult, but not us.. what made you realize that the jw's is a cult?
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KW13
When you see how Witnesses are cut off from all sorts of things, family, friends and the rest of the world. Then content they view is controlled...Elders can be harsh, they have been with me over trivial things.
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Can someone point out the differences between a teacher and a leader?
by DavidChristopher ini spent some time in my 5 year olds kindergarten class today.....i was in awe at how one teacher can keep order and teach 20 different hyper children, even getting them to act as one.
truly awesome sight it was........ that is when this topic popped in my head.
any thoughts?
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KW13
I would say a Teacher has knowledge to share and experience in A scenario.
I am not sure how to describe a leader, they are similar in respects.
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The end is not close..................so prove it !
by vitty inim fading, and some of my family now realize we arent going to meetings.
everytime they phone or speak to me me, they keep reminding ( threatning) that the end is so close, dont give up now.. i just dont know how to respond, i know so much, but dont want to go into the un stuff yet ( dont want to sound apostate just yet) how can i say i dont believe the end is close !
that armageddon isnt iminent, what scripture can i use to back it up.
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KW13
well, its been over 100 years the end was predicted, World wars have passed and convinced folks the end was upon them.
Whatever this world faces, the end brought about Jehovah is not here and will never come by Jehovah.
The witnesses say that many false prophets will arise and mislead many, if you take a look at them, its a fitting description.
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What is your rating?
by billyboy inas a bit of a newbie , i'm interested as to the overall viewpoint of site users and spectrum of views.. using a crude gauge , where 1 = completely convinced "stepford"jw ("jhs organisation is wonderful etc") and 10 is a completely rabid "tear down the tower" apostate/ex-witness pathalogically hating the whole jw structure , where do you fit in?
(apolgies to both groups - no offense intended).. i'm about 2.5 - somewhat disillusioned , keen for reforms in certain areas but broadly accepts the teachings and loves the lifestyle.
would never leave.
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KW13
I am an 8/9.
I wouldn't harm the witnesses or hurt anyone in it but if i saw a chance for them to see what nonsense they are in i would take it.
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Elder Horror Stories
by Saoirse inozzie suggested we get all these stories together so i started a new thread.
post yours here!.
i have a friend that hasn't been to a meeting in over a year.
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KW13
The elders have a secret book called "Pay Attention to yourselves and to all of the flock"
On page 21 is says they can if necessary watch people, follow them and spy on them. *even 24hour/overnight*
if i saw an elder doing that i would be MAD AS HELL!
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Answer from the "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses"
by Lilycurly insome of you might remember my situation....i have daed myself a while ago, and my father is the only jw in the family.
since i am very close to him and the family, he has read everything related to shunning, he even asked elders and even them are not sure.
so he wrote a big long letter to bethel to have an answer.
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KW13
thats pathetic of them, i bet if they were in the situation writing the letter they'd take a different view.
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How can she pick and choose who she wants to shun?
by Bumble Bee inrecently my mother and sister have cut me out of their lives.
they made it quite clear that they don't want anything to do with me anymore, my mother going so far as to change her will (not that there was much there anyways).. i have not da, am not df, have never said anything to anyone in my family about my doubts or what i have uncovered about this religion, i just stopped going to meetings.
(i usually go to the dc with her, and some ca, and the memorial at her cong.).
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KW13
Thats sad and wrong.