Whilst the Bible generally portrays Jesus as a good and clever man, is this the whole story? How does Jesus respond to those who meet with his disapproval? To Peter he says: "Get thee behind me, SATAN: thou art an offence unto me." ( Matt 16:23 ) The 'goats' in the parable of the sheep and the goats are condemned to: "EVERLASTING FIRE prepared for the Devil and his angels." ( Matt 25:41 ) To Christians in Laodicea he says; ' I will SPUE thee out of my mouth." ( Rev 3:16 ) Is Jesus over-rated?
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Is Jesus over-rated?
by scout575 inwhilst the bible generally portrays jesus as a good and clever man, is this the whole story?
how does jesus respond to those who meet with his disapproval?
to peter he says: "get thee behind me, satan: thou art an offence unto me.
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Is John 12:24 inspired of God?
by scout575 injohn 12:24 says: "except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone; but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
" is this a scientifically accurate statement?
can a dead seed germinate and go on to produce fruit?
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Hi Jaffacake,
You say, 'since when does the Bible ever claim to be scientifically accurate?' The Bible DOES claim to be a book of TRUTH. Notice Proverbs 30:5,6: 'Every word of God is pure...Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.' Jesus says of God: "Thy word is TRUTH." ( John 17:17 )
The above question about seed quotes JESUS' words. Colossians 1:16 says of Jesus: "For by him were all things created." Would it be so unreasonable to expect the 'Creator' of the seed to be scientifically accurate about it?
You say that the Bible contains prophecy. If the Bible is supposedly capable of accurately predicting the future why is expecting scientific accuracy so unreasonable?
You say that my question would be a challenge to JW beliefs but not to the 'silent majority' of Christians. Do the 'silent majority' of Christians use this website?
You say that I'm using 'flawed tactics' in the way I present my questions. I wish that someone had used such 'flawed tactics' on me years ago.
My questions aren't addressed to 'most Christians.' When reading the many deeply flawed aspects of the Bible, 'most Christians' are in the convenient position of being able to dismiss these points as not 'nice' enough to be what God really meant. JWs and born again Christians don't have that luxury. They feel compelled to accept and apply these unpalatable Bible verses and reap the damaging consequences.
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What's your view of the bible?
by JH inok' the bible is full of errors and inconsistencies some will say, so does this make the bible nul and void?.
some verses are still very clear, like thy shall not steal, or thy shall not commit adultery or fornication... .
some will think that if you find a few errors or inconsistencies in the bible, then it's not trustworthy anymore, so scrap the whole book.
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The Bible continues ( in part ) to fascinate me. The idea presented by Jaffacake that it is inspired of God, but was distorted by Bible writers is problematic to say the least. He is left with a 'little Jack Horner' approach to the Bible - he 'puts in his thumb and pulls out a plumb' and leaves the unpalatable stuff. Who decides which bits are 'plums' and which bits aren't? Are the 'nice bits' the bits that got through from God in an untainted way, and the 'horrid bits' the bits that got corrupted by the Bible writers?
This posting is 'inspired' by me and I bet the version of it that arrives on the site will be EXACTLY what I intended. What a shame that 'almighty God' can't convey his messages to mankind as effectively as the internet can convey my messages to this website.
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Is John 12:24 inspired of God?
by scout575 injohn 12:24 says: "except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone; but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
" is this a scientifically accurate statement?
can a dead seed germinate and go on to produce fruit?
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John 12:24 says: "Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and DIE, it abideth alone; but if it DIE, it bringeth forth much fruit." Is this a scientifically accurate statement? Can a DEAD seed germinate and go on to produce fruit?
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Is there a problem with Matthew 12:40?
by scout575 inmatthew 12:40b says: "so shall the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
" if someone on this site were to say that jesus was 'in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights' would some helpful soul reply with a correction?
does this bible verse need to be corrected?
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Matthew 12:40b says: "So shall the son of man be three days and THREE nights in the heart of the earth." If someone on this site were to say that Jesus was 'in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights' would some helpful soul reply with a correction? Does this Bible verse need to be corrected?
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What weird things have you read in the bible?
by stillAwitness inthe fact that nimrod's name means: "he stirred up the whole earth to rebel"
and yet ezra's name means: "help"
what caused nimord's mother to name him something that had such a negative meaning and yet he turned out to be just that?
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I mustbreakaway- that Scripture you paraphrased is from Zechariah 13:6. Its applied by the WTS to the discipline that JWs inflict on apostates. Watch out, your "intense lovers" are after you!
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Does the Bible's '2 witnesses' rule give evidence of divine inspiration?
by scout575 inat deut 17:6 the law is given that states that for the death penalty to be imposed on someone guilty of a capital offence, there have to be 2 or 3 witnesses to the crime.
if there weren't at least 2 witnesses then no conviction could be made and therefore no punishment meted out to the offender.. consider the following scenario: an israelite girl is being sexually abused by her israelite father ( incest was a capital offence under the mosaic law - leviticus 18:6,29 ).
she approaches the city elders and tells them what her father is doing to her.
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Fairmind: Child molestation was just as much a crime in Israelite times as it is today ( Under the Mosiac law it warranted the death penalty ). I completely agree that suspected cases of child abuse should be reported to the police. I pity the abused Israelite girl for whom there was no police force - she just had to carry on being molested. Shame that 'Almighty God' couldn't have come up with some way of protecting her. Shame that today's police service is better equipped to deal with child abuse than 'Almighty God' ever was.
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Ever wondered about Colossians 1:23?
by scout575 incolossians 1:23b claims that by the time of writing, the good news had been preached, "to every creature ( "all creation" - nwt ) which is under heaven.
" had the good news really been preached in 'all creation under heaven' when colossians was written?
was this statement inspired by an all-knowing god or does it just reflect reflect the ignorance of the time, as to the size of the world?
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Fjtoth - Are you saying that you genuinely believe that within a few decades of the inception of Christianity, the Apostles were in the Australian wilderness preaching to the native people there?
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Ever wondered about Colossians 1:23?
by scout575 incolossians 1:23b claims that by the time of writing, the good news had been preached, "to every creature ( "all creation" - nwt ) which is under heaven.
" had the good news really been preached in 'all creation under heaven' when colossians was written?
was this statement inspired by an all-knowing god or does it just reflect reflect the ignorance of the time, as to the size of the world?
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If it meant the Roman Empire, then why doesn't the text say that? Also, the Roman Empire included Britain, which had been colonized by the time that Colossians was written. Had Christians really got as far as Britain just a few decades after the start of Christianity? As for the good news having been preached all around the world by the time that Colossians was written, had the good news really been preached to the aboriginal populations of Australia and America? Why is there no mention in the NT of Christianity reaching these places? The NT only refers to Christianity being preached in places around the area of the Mediterranean and the Near East.
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Ever wondered about Colossians 1:23?
by scout575 incolossians 1:23b claims that by the time of writing, the good news had been preached, "to every creature ( "all creation" - nwt ) which is under heaven.
" had the good news really been preached in 'all creation under heaven' when colossians was written?
was this statement inspired by an all-knowing god or does it just reflect reflect the ignorance of the time, as to the size of the world?
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Colossians 1:23b claims that by the time of writing, the good news had been preached, "to every creature ( "all creation" - NWT ) which is under heaven." Had the good news really been preached in 'ALL creation under heaven' when Colossians was written? Was this statement inspired by an all-knowing god or does it just reflect reflect the ignorance of the time, as to the size of the world?