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Some scripture you will hear on 21 May at very many churches

by A Paduan in

i no longer call you slaves,.

because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.

because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.

scout575

A Paduan: I didn't understand your post. Can you spell it out for me please?

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 21-05-06 Church Sermon.

by scout575 in

"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.

" ( matthew 10:23 ).

"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

scout575

A Paduan: When Matthew 16:28 says that, "some will NOT TASTE death", what do you think that means?

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Some scripture you will hear on 21 May at very many churches

by A Paduan in

i no longer call you slaves,.

because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.

because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.

Sad emo: Your modern analogy is spot on. The text at Deuteronomy 21:18-23, is clearly not discussing fractious children, but rather 'asbo boys' in 'hoodies' with sharp sticks. My point in making my last reply is merely to point out that the expression, 'put to death', is synonymous with execution rather than being 'put outside the camp' ( which would have been no GUARANTEE of death, particularly to Israelites living in the promised land ).

Your much earlier claim that being, "cut off", means to be 'put outside the camp' is disproved by the fact that, at Exodus 31:14, 15, the expression, "cut off" is equated with being' "put to death", which my last reply shows to be synonymous with, 'stoning' and 'slaying', and NOT being, 'put outside the camp'. What evidence have you got from the mosaic law that being, "cut off", means being, 'put outside the camp'? Can you give me a single case of an Israelite being sentenced to being, "cut off", who was then, "put outside the camp'?

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 21-05-06 Church Sermon.

by scout575 in

"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.

" ( matthew 10:23 ).

"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

scout575

A Paduan: So, when I, "TASTE" my dinner this evening, will I be doing something different to when I, 'tasted OF' my breakfast this morning? If so, what is the difference?

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 28-05-06 Church Sermon

by scout575 in

"and he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue; and looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, ephphatha, that is, be opened.

and straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plain.

" ( mark 7:33-35 ).

scout575

Lovelylil: Please know that I mean NO disrespect to Bible-believing Christians in making these weekly posts. I don't mean to make them look stupid or to tear them down. I'm making these weekly posts in the ( slim ) hope that I may, 'sow a seed' in the mind of some JW 'lurkers', which may eventually lead to their viewing the Bible as the work of man, rather than their viewing it as the infallible 'word of God'. I sincerely wish that someone had done the same thing for me years ago.

Just as you share your view of the Bible with people in the belief that doing so is in their best interests, so do I. Just as your doing so is done with no intention of making them look stupid or tear them down, neither is mine. I certainly WOULD NOT tell you to 'mind your own business' if you were to try to disprove the claims of atheists. On the contrary, I would welcome it.

It may come as some comfort to you to know that when I have exhausted the 'iffy' texts from the New Testamant, I have no intention of starting on the even, 'iffier' texts from the Old Testament. If I were to do so, I suspect that the, 'Son of man would have come in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory' ( Matthew 24:30b ), before I ever completed the task.

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 28-05-06 Church Sermon

by scout575 in

"and he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue; and looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, ephphatha, that is, be opened.

and straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plain.

" ( mark 7:33-35 ).

scout575

Sad emo: I fear that you may be taking a too literalistic view of the title of this weekly thread. Maybe a more liberal view is in order?

I was reading a miracle story from the Koran the other day. As the Koran is an ancient religious text that is viewed by millions upon millions of sincere Muslims the world over, as God's infallible word, should I view this miracle story in the Koran as historically true, or as mythical?

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 28-05-06 Church Sermon

by scout575 in

"and he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue; and looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, ephphatha, that is, be opened.

and straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plain.

" ( mark 7:33-35 ).

scout575

"And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and HE SPIT, and touched his tongue; and looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, ephphatha, that is, be opened. And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spoke plain." ( Mark 7:33-35 )

"And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had SPIT ON HIS EYES, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees walking. After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." ( Mark 8:23-25 )

"And when he had thus spoken, HE SPAT ON THE GROUND, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the man with the clay, and said unto him, go wash in the pool of Siloam ( which is by interpretation, sent ). He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing." ( John 9:6,7 )

Myths.

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Some scripture you will hear on 21 May at very many churches

by A Paduan in

i no longer call you slaves,.

because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.

because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.

scout575

A Paduan: That verse ( Lev 24:16 ), comes straight after the account of the man who had committed the crime of blasphemy. His punishment is recorded in verse 14, which says: "Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him LAY THEIR HANDS UPON his head, and let all the congregation STONE HIM." After having stoned this man, would those Israelites have interpreted verse 16, in anything other than a literal way? Does the literal stoning of verse 14, become 'spiritual' stoning in verse 16?

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 21-05-06 Church Sermon.

by scout575 in

"but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily i say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of israel till the son of man be come.

" ( matthew 10:23 ).

"for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

scout575

A Paduan: Hebrews 2:9 says: "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the SUFFERING OF DEATH, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should TASTE DEATH for every man." Here, 'TASTING DEATH' is equated with, "SUFFERING DEATH". At Matthew 16:28, does 'TASTING of DEATH', mean something else? If so, what?

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Some scripture you will hear on 21 May at very many churches

by A Paduan in

i no longer call you slaves,.

because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.

because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.

scout575

A Paduan: I am merely pointing out what the text actually says. If Leviticus 24:16 says: "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH, and all the congregation shall certainly STONE HIM ", how can that be understood in any other way but literally?