A Paduan: Forgive me again, but I don't quite understand your question. If your reference to God's wrath,'resting' upon people is a Biblical one, can you give me the chapter and verse, and then I'll be in a better position to reply to you?
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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A Paduan: The Christians that I refer to are the people that are referred to by ex-Christians who post on ex-Christian websites and message boards. It is very moving and disturbing to read about how ex-Christians are labelled as 'apostates' and shunned by those that they used to attend church with. I'll quote an example of this as next week's post, but you may find it enlightening to check out the above site for yourself.
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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A Paduan: One of the things I've noticed from reading ex-Christian websites and message boards is how many ex-Christians complain about being shunned by their Christian family and former friends. After they let it be known that they no longer believe the Bible to be inspired of God, they are viewed as an 'apostate' and avoided. Many ex-Christians find this heartbreaking.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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A Paduan: Forgive me for being obtuse, but I often struggle to grasp what you're saying to me. I make no secret of the fact that I'm not very bright, and that I don't undertstand your last post or the one before that. I won't be offended if you spell things out more clearly with me than you might do in responding to other people's posts. Hope you don't mind. Kind regards, by the way.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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Shining One and A Paduan: "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. In flaming fire TAKING VENGEANCE on them that KNOW NOT God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be PUNISHED with EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." ( 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 )
This is what this NT writer thought the 'wrath of God' would mean for those who, "know not God."
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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"I live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. I can name so many Priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with Rome and the Diocese. Parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!! Good luck!"The above post can be found at ex-christian.net. Look on page 1 of the section entitled, 'testimonies of former Christians'. The thread is entitled, 'Clergy-moral duty'. The above is post #5, and the poster's name is, 'Garrison jj'. If you're a JW thinking about joining a church, please become familiar with this site.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH OF GOD abideth on him." ( John 3:36 )"For the WRATH OF GOD is revealed from heaven against all UNGODLINESS and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness." ( Romans 1:18 )
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the WRATH OF GOD COMETH on the CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE." ( Colossians 3:5,6 )
Hollow, 2000 year old threats.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 25-06-06 Church Sermon.
by scout575 in"but if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye not be consumed one of another.
" ( galatians 5:15 ).
"and withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tatlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
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A Paduan: You interpret the expression, "Ye kill" ( James 4:2 ) very interestingly. It seems odd to me that that you feel that that expression can be used without indicating a background of severe hostility.
Notice how James goes on to discipline his brothers and sisters for their failures, as indicated in verses 1,2: "Ye adulterers and adulteresses." ( verse 4 ). "Cleanse your hands you sinners, and purify your hearts, ye double minded." ( verse 8 ) " Be afflicted and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness." ( verse 9 ) "Speak not evil one of another." ( verse 11 ). Clearly, big problems existed in the congregations; not much sign of the so-called, 'fruits of the spirit'.
I've been struck by how many times you have mis-interpreted my posts over the last few weeks, and how I've sometimes needed to say that we're, 'divided by a common language'. You seem to read my posts acccording to a pre-supposition about me, rather than seeing whats actually there. I wonder if you unconsciously have the same approach to the Bible?
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"Smacking Yourself on the Forehead."
by scout575 in"as to your christian family + friends, you will realize that, if and / or when you tell them of your unbelief, you will find that these so called christians will leave you cold!!!
so much for christian love.".
"i agree with trashy... expect lots of time spent smacking yourself on the forehead, wondering how in the world you could have believed it for so long.
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"As to your Christian family + friends, you will realize that, if and / or when you tell them of your unbelief, you will find that these so called Christians will leave you cold!!! So much for Christian love."
"I agree with Trashy... expect lots of time spent smacking yourself on the forehead, wondering how in the world you could have believed it for so long. I wish with all my might that I could have gotten out earlier than I did...I feel like the majority of my life up to my deconversion was partially wasted."
This post can be found at Ex-christian.net, on page 1 of the section entitled, 'Testimonies of former Christians'. It is post #5 in a thread entitled, 'On the rocks'. The poster's name is Truth Seeker. If you are a Jehovah's Witness thinking about joining a church, please check out this message board.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 25-06-06 Church Sermon.
by scout575 in"but if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye not be consumed one of another.
" ( galatians 5:15 ).
"and withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tatlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
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A Paduan: James 4:2 says, "Ye kill". Whilst I don't necessarily take this to mean that there were literal murders being committed within the congregations that James was addressing, it DOES indicate that there was severe hostility.
AULDSOUL. I fail to see why quoting scattered texts is such a problem. Do you want me to quote the entire chapter? The NT is full of examples of quoting scattered texts from the OT, see Romans 7:7, 8:36, 9:9 etc. The texts that I quote don't misrepresent the writers, but indicate the problems that they themselves address in their letters. Would you claim that I'm quoting verses out of context if I quoted nice NT verses? What about the following:
"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill, cannot be hid." ( Matthew 5:14 )
"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly father will also forgive you." ( Matthew 6:14 )
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." ( Matthew 7:7 )
Am I quoting out of context now, or is it only 'iffy' NT scattered verses that I shouldn't quote? Of course, NT writers are no slouches when it comes to quoting OT verses out of context, and misapplying them. Please see Matthew 1 :23 ; 2:15, 18 etc, for some real doozies.