Deputy Dog: I am in no way condemning all churches. Its quite clear that some churches are not interested in shunning Christians who leave Christianity for whatever reason. However the above NT sanctions are for all to see. Shunning is a NT policy, applied by some churches to the great misery of many ex-Christians. Tragic.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 09-07-06 Church Sermon.
by scout575 in"but now i have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
" ( 1 corinthians 5:11 ) .
"a man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 09-07-06 Church Sermon.
by scout575 in"but now i have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
" ( 1 corinthians 5:11 ) .
"a man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject.
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Deputy Dog: I call them, 'tragic policies' because of the great harm that the implementation of them has caused to many ex-Christians. We are all familiar with the sadness felt by many shunned ex-JWs; this same sadness is felt by many shunned ex-churchgoers. How tragic.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 09-07-06 Church Sermon.
by scout575 in"but now i have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
" ( 1 corinthians 5:11 ) .
"a man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject.
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"But now I have written unto you NOT TO KEEP COMPANY, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one NO NOT TO EAT." ( 1 Corinthians 5:11 )"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition REJECT." ( Titus 3:10 )
"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, RECEIVE HIM NOT into your house, NEITHER BID HIM GOD SPEED: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his EVIL DEEDS." ( 2 John 10,11 )
Tragic policies.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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scout575
A Paduan: Forgive me again, but I don't quite understand your question. If your reference to God's wrath,'resting' upon people is a Biblical one, can you give me the chapter and verse, and then I'll be in a better position to reply to you?
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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A Paduan: The Christians that I refer to are the people that are referred to by ex-Christians who post on ex-Christian websites and message boards. It is very moving and disturbing to read about how ex-Christians are labelled as 'apostates' and shunned by those that they used to attend church with. I'll quote an example of this as next week's post, but you may find it enlightening to check out the above site for yourself.
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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scout575
A Paduan: One of the things I've noticed from reading ex-Christian websites and message boards is how many ex-Christians complain about being shunned by their Christian family and former friends. After they let it be known that they no longer believe the Bible to be inspired of God, they are viewed as an 'apostate' and avoided. Many ex-Christians find this heartbreaking.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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scout575
A Paduan: Forgive me for being obtuse, but I often struggle to grasp what you're saying to me. I make no secret of the fact that I'm not very bright, and that I don't undertstand your last post or the one before that. I won't be offended if you spell things out more clearly with me than you might do in responding to other people's posts. Hope you don't mind. Kind regards, by the way.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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scout575
Shining One and A Paduan: "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. In flaming fire TAKING VENGEANCE on them that KNOW NOT God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be PUNISHED with EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." ( 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 )
This is what this NT writer thought the 'wrath of God' would mean for those who, "know not God."
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"Nervous Breakdowns"
by scout575 in"i live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. i can name so many priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with rome and the diocese.
parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!!
good luck!
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scout575
"I live in a small town, total area pop around 80,000. I can name so many Priests throughout my lifetime that left either because they got married, became indicated in sexual abuse, had nervous breakdowns or just got fed up with Rome and the Diocese. Parishes are combining due to lack of attendance, schools are closing and they keep praying for f****** vocations!!!! Good luck!"The above post can be found at ex-christian.net. Look on page 1 of the section entitled, 'testimonies of former Christians'. The thread is entitled, 'Clergy-moral duty'. The above is post #5, and the poster's name is, 'Garrison jj'. If you're a JW thinking about joining a church, please become familiar with this site.
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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 02-07-06 Church Sermon
by scout575 in"he that believeth on the son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the son shall not see life; but the wrath of god abideth on him.
" ( john 3:36 ) .
"for the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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scout575
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH OF GOD abideth on him." ( John 3:36 )"For the WRATH OF GOD is revealed from heaven against all UNGODLINESS and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness." ( Romans 1:18 )
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the WRATH OF GOD COMETH on the CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE." ( Colossians 3:5,6 )
Hollow, 2000 year old threats.