lori and i are headed to nyc tomorrow, and we'll be there 'til thursday.
we'll also have limited funds (ie: don't suggest a broadway show!
any specific suggestions on good, inexpensive things to do, places to see, music, art, food?
I have to agree with Mimimus about Virgil's BBQ! Centrally located right in the heart of Times Square and they have a version of "Ice Tea" that will truly knock you off your feet! Yum!
In Tribeca, there is an Italian restaurant called Ivy's Bistro (it's on Greenwich Street.) Small, intimate place with excellent pasta dishes. And if you really want to splurge one evening, Tribeca Grill is very nice. Might even see some celebrities in there since it's owned by Robert De Niro.
Joyal
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i don't know if any of you knew brother littlejohn of nyc, but i just heard that he just died.. if the name sounds familiar it may be because he had many parts on the assembly programs, usually the dramas.. he was a overall nice guy, but i am sure neither he nor his family expected him to die in this"system of things".
Not sure if this 100% true, but rumor has it he may have contracted West Nile virus during an international convention trip this Summer. I'm sure that was totally unexpected.
Joyal
has anyone from the new york metropolitan area heard anything about the caretaker and his wife at the jersey city assembly hall being asked to leave?
wonder if this is part of the general wt "downsizing" or if there is more to the story?
just curious.
You said Jersey City..missed that. Is that Arabic-type guy from Miami still running that place?...Affif Fayad I think was his name
The person in charge now is Caucausian. Not sure who Fayad is.
Joyal
has anyone from the new york metropolitan area heard anything about the caretaker and his wife at the jersey city assembly hall being asked to leave?
wonder if this is part of the general wt "downsizing" or if there is more to the story?
just curious.
Has anyone from the New York metropolitan area heard anything about the caretaker and his wife at the Jersey City assembly hall being asked to leave? Wonder if this is part of the general WT "downsizing" or if there is more to the story? Just curious.
Joyal
i had an interesting conversation the other day with a friend who is also an ex-jw.
this person is older than i am, and was a jw for a number of decades.
she was talking about worldly relatives that she basically ignored when she was a jw.
This is a very sore spot for me because I was the one who shunned my relatives and tried to browbeat them into believing what I believed when I became a JW. This was especially true of my dear sister, whom I had been very very close to until that time.
Unfortunately she died, so I will not be able to make that up to her. Having seen the truth about this organization, It's one of the things I now truly regret.
one of the previous posts made me wonder how many active jws post on this site and how many of you are only in because not wanting to lose your family and you are leading a double life and also how many of you are still active but questioning.
please, all of you, i would like to hear your stories (of course not enough info to give away your identity) and why you are still in.
i think a lot of us that are out would be interested.. nowimfree.
It's under the "Bible Research and Study Articles" section. Blondie did an excellent job (as usual) of really getting to the heart of the study.
Joyal
one of the previous posts made me wonder how many active jws post on this site and how many of you are only in because not wanting to lose your family and you are leading a double life and also how many of you are still active but questioning.
please, all of you, i would like to hear your stories (of course not enough info to give away your identity) and why you are still in.
i think a lot of us that are out would be interested.. nowimfree.
I really don't know why I'm still going to the meetings (a lot less than ever before, but still attending). I have no family to lose and I think the friends that really matter will still be there for me, so I just can't explain it yet. I go through this gut-wrenching "will I or won't I go today" scenario every time meeting day comes around, and I think to myself that I need to stop the lunacy.
I recently heard of a situation where an inactive JW who was having surgery was contacted by someone from HLC without permission ever being given to them. My thought was: "how dare they insert themselves where they are not wanted or asked!" I'm still having a hard time coming to terms with that (and so is the person involved). I think the hospital should be sued, but don't know what the person will do.
Incidents like this help me see a little clearer each day what it is that I need to do. Also, WT articles like the one for this week make me want to write my letter and end it all. Hopefully soon . . .
i left the org slightly before the change in the "generation that was alive in 1914" thing was announced and wondered, what were peoples in the congregations reactions after this was announced and did it you notice people falling away because of it?
has it had a damaging effect?
I remember when we first heard this, but, like the average Witness, it went right over my head. But two of my friends, who were definitely better readers and students that I, were definitely unnerved by this. For one of them it started her descent into doubts about the religion (which has gotten much worse since that time).
After I read CoC, the light truly got brighter and I finally realized why they were so upset about the change -- and now, so am I.
Joyal
some of us are addicted or simply curious or have been referred to, to see what these boards are all about.
even when people say that they're done, they're never coming back, they reappear......what's wrong with us?
I come to this board for support and information. I am always amazed at what I learn here and how timely it all is. Some "announcements" I find here come out even before they are told at the meetings! That is amazing to me.
It also helps to find understanding and acceptance here, especially for those of us newly enlightened about the WTS' activities.
Thanks,
Joyal
question:.
it seems that there is a high rate of depression amongst jws.
does the jw religion cause depression, or are depressed people drawn to the jws?.
Brigid,
Technically I am still "in" but mentally and emotionally I am trying to get out. I wax and wane between wanting to just walk in there and quit to doing the "fade". I'm on an emotional rollercoaster from day to day -- anger, frustration, saddness, defiance -- the full gamut of emotions. Just completed CoC so I guess I'm still in a state of shock trying to digest all that I have learned recently, after spending thirty years as a JW.
I'm reading all the "alternative" material that I can get my hands on and I keep repeating to myself that it will get better in time. That's what I'm hoping for.
Joyal
