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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  DakotaRed

  Here is a link to a site I found that has lots of articles compiled about it. Maybe they can explain the why's a little better;

  http://www.ccfj.net/flyoldglory.htm
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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  DakotaRed

  Now, I understand the bushes would have touched it if he were to place it in the "usual" place on the front of the home, but could he have not either #1 - lowered the bushes or #2 - raised the brackets? I really would like to understand why he couldn't just follow the rules like everyone else.

  Well, I can't really answer the why's of it all, that is a personal thing between them. But, bear in mind, the "rule" only became a rule after it was up and flying. Maybe he felt that since it was already existing, their rule didn't matter, or maybe, he just is proud to display the flag properly. Only he can answer that.

  But, not to change the subject, I read here time and time again that dissension is a good thing and necessary for the betterment of everyone. Is this not also him dissenting against what may be an out of control HOA? Just a thought.
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  Saddam not part of Sept. 11th...from George's own mouth...

  by Aztec in

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  washington, sept. 17 president bush said wednesday that there was no evidence that former iraqi president saddam hussein was involved in the sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, disputing an impression that critics say the administration tried to foster to justify the war against iraq.

  theres no question that saddam hussein had al-qaida ties, the president said.

  but he also said, weve had no evidence that saddam hussein was involved with september the 11th.. the presidents comment was the administrations firmest assertion that there was no proven link between saddam and sept. 11. it came after vice president dick cheney clouded the issue sunday by saying, its not surprising people make that connection.. speaking on nbcs meet the press, cheney also repeated an allegation, doubted by many in the intelligence community, that mohamed atta, the lead sept. 11 attacker, met with a senior iraqi intelligence official in prague in the czech republic five months before sept. 11, 2001.. weve never been able to develop any more of that yet, either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it, cheney said sunday.

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  Hans Blix never thought we'd find WMD.

  The following quotes are some I took off of the UN Website from Hans Blix himself prior to the war in Iraq. I have been hearing Mr. Blix say today that he knew there wouldn’t be any WMDs found. But, is that what he was saying to the UN before?

  "Another matter, and one of great significance, is that many proscribed weapons and items are not accounted for,"

  “If they exist they should be presented for destruction. If they do not exist, credible evidence to that effect should be presented."

  "In the current situation, one would expect Iraq to be eager to comply,"

  “…some 300 chemical and biological samples have been collected and the destruction of approximately 50 litres of mustard gas has begun.”

  "Today, three months after the adoption of resolution 1441, the period of disarmament through inspection could still be short, if 'immediate, active and unconditional cooperation' with UNMOVIC and the IAEA were to be forthcoming,"

  http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=6169&Cr=iraq&Cr1=inspect

  The link now goes to a blank page on the UN site. I guess they periodically remove transcripts. Here are some others if you wish to check it out;

  http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/6/16/11554

  http://www.twin-towers.net/wmd.htm

  http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2000/398/398p20b.htm

  http://66.216.126.164/kurtz/kurtz060903.asp

  http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952917/posts

  http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A26671-2003Jun6&notFound=true

  http://www.fas.org/man/crs/IB92117.pdf

  http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2002/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm

  http://www.iraqwatch.org/wmd/
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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

  1. social
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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  For me, pg, it's "free speech" because that is what was used to pass constitutional protection of burning and desecrating the flag in protest. If it is free speech to protest and destroy the flag, why isn't it also free speech to respectfully display it? No community can pass any ordinances against destroying the flag, but they can pass ordinances against flying it? To me, that just isn't right.

  As to other flags being flown, yes, I would stand for their right to display theirs too. Other flags don't bother me and really don't concern me that much, but this issue is about flying the American Flag within America, not anywhere else.

  For a veteran to be punished for flying our National Flag within our borders is just assinine. If flying it in another country were the problem, then I'd say take it down, but this isn't another country.
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  Saddam not part of Sept. 11th...from George's own mouth...

  by Aztec in

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  washington, sept. 17 president bush said wednesday that there was no evidence that former iraqi president saddam hussein was involved in the sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, disputing an impression that critics say the administration tried to foster to justify the war against iraq.

  theres no question that saddam hussein had al-qaida ties, the president said.

  but he also said, weve had no evidence that saddam hussein was involved with september the 11th.. the presidents comment was the administrations firmest assertion that there was no proven link between saddam and sept. 11. it came after vice president dick cheney clouded the issue sunday by saying, its not surprising people make that connection.. speaking on nbcs meet the press, cheney also repeated an allegation, doubted by many in the intelligence community, that mohamed atta, the lead sept. 11 attacker, met with a senior iraqi intelligence official in prague in the czech republic five months before sept. 11, 2001.. weve never been able to develop any more of that yet, either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it, cheney said sunday.

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  ...just can't find a single quote where Bush stated Saddam was actually behind Sept 11.

  Right. And the JWs NEVER ACTUALLY SAID that 1975 was "the end" of this system of things either....

  Very simple to counter, Swickley, just supply the quote and a link to it. Easy!
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  Saddam not part of Sept. 11th...from George's own mouth...

  by Aztec in

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  washington, sept. 17 president bush said wednesday that there was no evidence that former iraqi president saddam hussein was involved in the sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, disputing an impression that critics say the administration tried to foster to justify the war against iraq.

  theres no question that saddam hussein had al-qaida ties, the president said.

  but he also said, weve had no evidence that saddam hussein was involved with september the 11th.. the presidents comment was the administrations firmest assertion that there was no proven link between saddam and sept. 11. it came after vice president dick cheney clouded the issue sunday by saying, its not surprising people make that connection.. speaking on nbcs meet the press, cheney also repeated an allegation, doubted by many in the intelligence community, that mohamed atta, the lead sept. 11 attacker, met with a senior iraqi intelligence official in prague in the czech republic five months before sept. 11, 2001.. weve never been able to develop any more of that yet, either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it, cheney said sunday.

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  Try as hard as I can, this warmongering, Bush supporting, hate filled, right wing wacko just can't find a single quote where Bush stated Saddam was actually behind Sept 11. All I can find is him saying there are ties to Al Qeada.

  As for WMDs, it seems everyone believed they were there until recently. Was Saddam so suicidal that he wouldn't allow the inspectors to verify their destruction over a 12 year period? Quite possible, it seems.

  If the Bush administration is guilty of misleading many, then it appears many others are also, including some here.

  "Though the Bush administration has been largely silent about Salman Pak, former CIA Director James Woolsey (under the Clinton Administration) is apparently convinced it was used to rehearse Sept. 11-style hijackings."

  http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/8/13/95502

  From the transcript of a Meet The Press interview with General Wesley Clark (ret.)

  GEN. CLARK: I think it was an effort to convince the American people to do something, and I think there was an immediate determination right after 9/11 that Saddam Hussein was one of the keys to winning the war on terror. Whether it was the need just to strike out or whether he was a linchpin in this, there was a concerted effort during the fall of 2001 starting immediately after 9/11 to pin 9/11 and the terrorism problem on Saddam Hussein.

  MR. RUSSERT: By who? Who did that?

  GEN. CLARK: Well, it came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. It came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, “You got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to Saddam Hussein.”

  http://crastinate.jonwiley.com/archives/000053.html

  From a letter to the editor sent by Gen. Clark to the New York Times

  To the Editor:

  I would like to correct any possible misunderstanding of my remarks on ''Meet the Press,'' quoted in Paul Krugman's July 15 column, about ''people around the White House'' seeking to link Sept. 11 to Saddam Hussein.

  I received a call from a Middle East think tank outside the country, asking me to link 9/11 to Saddam Hussein. No one from the White House asked me to link Saddam Hussein to Sept. 11. Subsequently, I learned that there was much discussion inside the administration in the days immediately after Sept. 11 trying to use 9/11 to go after Saddam Hussein.

  In other words, there were many people, inside and outside the government, who tried to link Saddam Hussein to Sept. 11.
  
  WESLEY K. CLARK

  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE4D81131F930A2575BC0A9659C8B63
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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

  1. social
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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  DakotaRed

  pg, the timing of when he knew of any ban on flag poles was brought out numerous times by his attorney on TV interviews. The HOA has not disputed that either.
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  Pictures Of My Visit to Texas

  by DakotaRed in

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  for those who have watched as witchywoman and i keep growing fonder of each other, and anyone else interested, i have put up some pics of her and i that i took earlier this week and last weekend when i was in houston visiting her.

  the link is to my webpage and feel free to look around at the rest, if you feel like it.. http://home.earthlink.net/~lawaters3/id4.html

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  Thanks again ya'll. She is planning on coming back up here over Thanksgiving, so I'll see if we can get more pictures then. Until then, hope you all enjoy what is up there now.
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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

  1. social
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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  DakotaRed

  The lien is for repayment of legal fees incurred in some 4 years of court hearings. When he purchased his home, it was not against any rules to have the flagpole, that came later with the HOA.

  Still, I still say it's a sad state of affairs for any nation when desecrating or burning your natioanl flag is consitutionally protected, but displaying it properly isn't. But then, flying the flag means more to most veterans than to many others.
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  FLORIDA MAN BEATS HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION GETS SUED FOR LEGAL FEES

  by Yerusalyim in

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  the retired marine that took on the home owners association for the right to fly his american flag won the case against them and earned the right to fly his flag.

  however...he was then sued by the home owners association to be forced to pay their legal fees.

  stupid...he's appealling.

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  DakotaRed

  Apparently, he initially lost in court and the HOA placed a lien on his home for payment of legal fees. The State passed a law making it legal to "fly the flag in a respectful manner, regardless of any HOAs rules" and made it retroactive. However, the courts in Palm Beach still say the lien stands for their legal fees.

  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32757

  It's really sad when a 66 year old veteran can stand to lose his home for flying the American flag inside of America. Rules or not, when desecrating and burning the flag is condoned and flying it isn't, something is terribly wrong. The same would go for any nation and their citizens and their flag, as far as I'm concerned.

  When I was still in the Army, in Ft. Bragg NC, a Sargeant I knew, a super partiot to boot, tried to buy a flag on Sunday. He couldn't because of "blue laws" the flag being considered a "toy" and no toys could be sold on Sunday. He initiated such a stink that last I heard, the county exempted the flag from "toy status."

  What strikes me as even sadder, is even the dubs teach to show respect for the flag, just don't honor it.