Posts by DakotaRed

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

So much for wanting to see a critical look at Clark, huh, TeeJay? The claim about the Europeans loosing respect for America during the Kosovo campaign are in the articles, the ones you seem to think I don't read.

As for looking at Bush, haven't we been hearing any and every negative thing about him for three years now?

And, just what was the neccessity of Kosovo? Milosovic wasn't threatening the US with WMDs, he wasn't supporting international terrorism, so why did the US need to get into the middle of a European mess again? What was Clark's exit strategy there and why are we still there, six years later? Isn't that the same questions we are demanding answers for from Bush?

But still, my original question remains unanswered. If Bush and Rumsfeld and all are warmongers and bloodthirsty because of Iraq and the war on terrorism, why isn't Clark also a warmonger due to his involvement in wars? There appears to be a bit of a double standard there.

You asked before, elsewhere, what if Clark were a Republican? My answer is the same, I fail to see where he is qualified for much of anything, other than looking pretty. Your vote is your business, my vote is mine.

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Has anyone here ever been to Australia?????????

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

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and if so, what did you think of this beautiful country of ours???????.

cheers, bliss

DakotaRed

I got to spend a week in Sydney back in 1970. Beautiful country and very friendly people. I was in the Army and was taken aback a little that the people there welcomed us with open arms, very much unlike our own citizens did when we returned back to the US.

When I win the lottery, I hope to visit there again.

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Violins in rock music?

by blacksheep in

so the dixie chicks are abandoning country for rock.

apparently because they're not appreciated or understood by the country music industry and fans.

didn't we have some sort of post-anti-bush discussion about how they were making more money since their ill-fated comments?

DakotaRed

If you really want to hear violins and such in Rock music, you should listen to the Beatles "Eleanor Rigby."

As for the Dipsie Chicks, old news, a flash in the past. I wish them well in their new endeavors.

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

In these and other areas, General Clark has so far shown that he's head and shoulders above Bush.

Naturally, TeeJay, I disagree with this, but you are entitled to your opinion.

millions of Americans have lost or are losing their jobs, the respect of other countries the U.S. has earned over the past several decades has been pissed away in a matter of and the man at the top still doesn't have a clue.

Here also I have to disagree. Jobs were being lost before Bush ever took office, maybe due to such things as NAFTA, the Kyoto Accord and other policies instituted, or maybe just a normal fluctuation in the economy.

As for the respect other nations had for us, that too was actually being pissed away during the fiasco we now call the Kosovo campaign, under the watchful command of one, General Wesley Clark.

Since you say you have no aversion to a critical look at Clark and being as he has no political resume' to examine, we can look back at his military career and see how well he did there. Here are a few links for you to read, if you dare. Oh, some are as equally critical of Bush too;

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/09/1646046.php

http://www.tcgreens.org/gl/articles/20030917063108912.html

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras12.html

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jan2000/koso-j08.shtml

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/dec1999/chin-d01.shtml

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/lowry/lowry082603.asp

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/930422/posts

http://dynamic.washtimes.com/print_story.cfm?StoryID=20030918-073343-2743r

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09172003.html

http://www.suntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/printrn20030922.shtml

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34685

http://www.msnbc.com/news/969659.asp?0cv=KA01

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/europe/671495.stm

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/83025_comment.php

You may think the analogy of Hitler was a cheap shot, TeeJay, but is it really any worse than the months on end of Bush bashing that has been going on?

As for your studies of Bush, may I also say that if all you seek is the bad, that is all you will find.

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

Six, you state how you want and I'll state how I want, okay? All I've been saying throughout this entire thread is to look at a candidate before throwing your support to them. Unless, they deserve to be blindly followed, that is.

Any of them, regardless of party affiliation, can get up and tell people what they wish to hear. But, getting beyond that speech, you may find they aren't who they portray themselves as.

Yes, it is my country too and none automatically get my support, I don't care what party they are. Truthfully, Bush wasn't my first choice back when he ran either, but he got the nomination and frankly, Mickey Mouse would have gotten my vote before Gore would.

Before throwing blind support behind any candidate, I urge all the dig into them and find out who they really are. Leopards are not noted for changing their spots and neither are Politicians. Voting responsibly is all I am after.

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

Six, I'm always honest, although I see very little demonstration of it here in return. You wish to pin my every word down, yet want yours taken broadly? And you insinuate I'm being dishonest?

My comment about Hitler was about any eloquent speaker that can mislead people, just as I said it was. Your wanting to pin it down only to Clark or Democrats is a bit dishonest in itself.

Last I heard, this is a public forum open to and read by many, not only you and I. Oh, and I register as an Independent and have voted for both parties.

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

he has neither been knighted by the Queen or taken over for God

Talk about sticking your head in the sand! I hate to have to inform you that you're wrong on both counts.

Oh? And when was he knighted by the Queen to qualify for "Sir" Clark? As for taking over for God, well, your answer speaks for itself.

Edited to add: I stand corrected on his "Honorary" Knighthood. But, since he is not a subject of Britain, it appears to be inapropriate to refer him as "Sir." Brits, correct me if I'm wrong.

My comment was towards all eloquent speakers who can mislead the masses,
Your comment was stupid and the ramblings of an insane partisan. Choose sanity.

Ah yes, comes the insults when any Democratic God wannabe is looked at critically. But, ya'll say that we on right are the hate mongers? Funny, though, I'm an "insane partisan" for wanting to look at the candidates critically, but you all aren't after months on end of bashing Bush?

So, it's only Republicans that are to be critically analyzed and hands off Democrats? Is that the way it is?

Maybe the Hitler analogy hit a little too close to home?

SS, Steve Martin for President reminds me of Pat Paulsen for President, you hamburger (Pat Paulsens infamous retort, for any lefties wanting to jump up and say it is an insult).

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

Six, I'm not the least bit worried. It appears it's ya'll who are worried and parading around Clark without even looking into who he really is.

After all the Bush bashing that's been going on for many months, it seems there is a hands off attitude towards Clark. Hate to pop the bubble, but, as far as I know, he has neither been knighted by the Queen or taken over for God, he is just another Politician wannabe.

As for the extra 10 points, thanks anyways, but I don't need them. My comment was towards all eloquent speakers who can mislead the masses, when the masses bury their heads in the sand. But, there is a Bristish General who might think it appropriate, General Sir Mike Jackson, commander of the international K-For peacekeeping force who reportedly said to Clark, "I'm not going to start the third world war for you."

http://www.zpub.com/un/clark.html

Is there a reason Clark can't stand up to a little critical investigating?

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

As to whether or not he is the "real deal," Teejay, I'll reserve judgement on that. Yes, I've heard him speak and quite frankly, I'm not all that impressed. First, he says he would have probably voted for war with Iraq, then the next day, says no way would he have voted for it.

He says the White House pressured him to link Saddam to 9-11, then a couple weeks later when pressed on it, admits it was some offshore "think tank" and writes a letter to the New York Times admitting the White House never said anything to him, but goes on to say he heard they were doing just that.

I also wonder what his intentions are in Kosovo, or did everyone forget we still have troops there and I see no exit strategy there either. We also can't forget that it was Clinton who fired him either. Nor can we forget that he wanted to attack the Russians that were occupying the airport in Kosovo, after the main fighting there was over. That very well could have resulted in a messier war than we are entailed in right now.

Although a Bush supporter myself, I still see Dean as the best shot the Democrats have out of the 10 candidates running. Don't just look at what he says today, words are cheap for any candidate. Look to what they have done in the past. Don't forget, one of the most charismatic speakers of the 20th Century led Germany into World War 2.

In time, though, we will see how he really stacks up against the others and whether or not Hillary jumps in.

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Run, Sir Clark, Run...

by teejay in

if he runs, he will be the most qualified of all those who now aspire to the office in 2004. if he runs, general wesley k. clark (ret.

) will be the second most qualified person to ever seek the presidency of the u.s. over the past 100 years, second only to the great william jefferson cliinton.

what follows are excerpts from an article about him in a recent esquire magazine.. he is a remarkable man with an unassailable integrity -- the kind of man that has all the little bushites shaking in their boots.

DakotaRed

Teejay, all day today, the news was reporting he was even with Bush. However, with him not taking part in any debates and having stumbled on some positions, I find these rapid numbers a bit suspect. We'll have to wait and see what the other Democrat candidates have to say. What really counts is next November.

My gut still thinks Hillary is going to jump in if she thinks she can beat Bush this time, otherwise, she'll wait til 2008. Bill seems to be pushing her towards this time around. Only time will tell.

It ain't over til it's over, though. This next year ought to prove interesting.