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  How to keep Jehovah's Witnesses from knocking on your door

  by Rook in

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  Do you support gay marriage?

  by chappy in

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  is your belief moral, social or practical?

  would you feel the same way if there were absolutely no religious influence on the matter pro or con?.

  regardless of your belief, does every adult have a fundimental right to marry anyone of his or her choosing, regardless of gender?.

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  Yes, it's their right and No, i do not support it.
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  John 1:1 in Coptic Translation

  by slimboyfat in

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  apparently there has been quite a stir in jw apologetic circles recently about the translation of john 1:1 in the early sahidic version of john.

  i don't know if this has been discussed here before - if someone could give a link to a previous thread they know about on the subject that would be great.

  here is what i gather: .

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  You won't find the word "Trinity" used in the Bible to describe God. I'm not sure when the term was coined, but the term aptly describes the true nature of God as evidenced in Scripture. Paul may not have used the term, but I'm sure he understood the concept. We're not talking a polytheistic doctrine (three separate gods), nor are we talking about a three-headed boogieman. The existence of one God in three Persons (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) is the only logical conclusion we can draw from Scripture.
  
  First of all, we know that there is ONLY ONE GOD (Deuteronomy 6:4, 1 Timothy 2:5, Isaiah 44:6).
  
  Yet there is a plurality to God:
  - "Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26)
  - "God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of us" (Genesis 3:22).
  
  Some would say that God could be speaking to the angels in these verses, but that's simply not correct. God was speaking to co-creator(s) in these verses. The Bible tells us that Jesus - not angels - created all things:
  
  - "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:3
  - "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him," Colossians 1:15-19.
  - "but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe." Hebrews 1:2
  
  The Bible refers to each person of the triune God uniquely. There is God the Father ("Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--", Galatians 1:1), God the Son (see John 1:1-18 and 5:18), and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18, 3:11, 12:32, John 14:26).
  
  In Luke 3:22, we find the Holy Spirit descending in the form of a dove upon Jesus, while God the Father spoke from Heaven. Three persons - but still just One God.
  
  In John 14:10, Jesus said, "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work."
  
  So you can see, that while the term "trinity" developed after the Bible was written, the nature of God that it describes is evidenced in Scripture. Dr. John Warwick Montgomery said, "The doctrine of the Trinity is not 'irrational'; what is irrational is to suppress the biblical evidence for trinity in favor of unity....The choice is clear: either the Trinity or a 'God' who is only a pale imitation of the Lord of biblical and confessional Christianity." I am not a great theologian, and I won't pretend that I fully comprehend the triune nature of our omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God. But I do understand the basic concept, and can easily see that it is really the only logical conclusion when scriptural evidence is assessed.
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  IF A LIAR SAID HE IS...

  by Think in

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  if a liar say that he is lying,

  is he teling the truth or he is lying ?

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  He would be a JW....an Honest Liar.
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  Noah's Ark.- Kangaroos

  by Stewart75 in

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  f(l)ood for thought,.

  if god had organised for each pair of species into noah's ark prior the flooding which destroyed many in wildlife.

  i wonder if any of australian animal species like kangaroos, wombats and emus were also included?

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  Rook

  Ha...gotta agree with Think again!...all my life i was told they came from Ethiopia.
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  Adam and Eve

  by GramblingMan in

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  can someone direct me to scriptures in the bible that show that adam and eve will not be ressurrected.

  i ask because my wife, who is a jw insists that this is bible base, yet she cannot provide me any scriptures.

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  Rook

  Oh my my...i don't think that i'm that good. Thanks anyway
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  Adam and Eve

  by GramblingMan in

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  can someone direct me to scriptures in the bible that show that adam and eve will not be ressurrected.

  i ask because my wife, who is a jw insists that this is bible base, yet she cannot provide me any scriptures.

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  Rook

  I agree with Think.
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  John 1:1 in Coptic Translation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
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  apparently there has been quite a stir in jw apologetic circles recently about the translation of john 1:1 in the early sahidic version of john.

  i don't know if this has been discussed here before - if someone could give a link to a previous thread they know about on the subject that would be great.

  here is what i gather: .

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  Rook

  In Sahidic the second "God" in John 1:1 appears with the indefinite article, lending support to the Witnesses' translation "and the Word was a god".

  NOW THAT IS A FAT LIE . (THE WORD WAS GOD) JESUS IS THE WORD.

  Sahidic was perhaps the first language into which the NT was translated, meaning that the Witnesses can claim support for their much reviled rendering from the very earliest translational testimony as to how this verse should be understood.

  THE VERSE IS UNDERSTOOD AS THE ETERNITY AND DEITY OF JESUS.

  On top of that it also appears that, whereas the first "God" in John 1:1 appears as a nomen sacrum, the second "God" in reference to Jesus is written out in full.

  THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!

  If these facts have been accurately reported to JW apologetic circles, then we can reasonably expect that the Society will make much of this new support for their view in future publications.

  NICE TRY... ITLEAST YOU HAVE GOOD IMAGINATION .
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  To those of us who have children in our lives..............................

  by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

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  >> grandchildren,.

  >> nieces,.

  >> nephews,.

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  Rook

  That was a good one!. Thanks for posting it.
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  Can I please get mad!

  by joelbear in

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  it makes me feel guilty to really say what i want to say to people who are keeping me from being a happier person.

  maybe resentment is why i'm so moody and depressed.

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  Rook

  It's what You think that's important. Ignore negative people.