Poland is interesting,more gone than was baptised! What has happened to Japan ,I remember for years the huge growth and at circuit or district assemlies we would have the guilt dumped on us about the massive quantity of Pioneers there and lines like this...."No brothers it's NOT why you should pioneer, but it's what reason have you got for NOT pioneering?!" And what's this increase of over 200 more annointed? there must be alot naughty geriatrics partying too hard and needing to get replaced
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2006 SERVICE REPORT - Feb 1, 2007 WT
by Mary ini'm not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here are the figures for the 2006 service report.
i highlighted the countries that have either a "0" or negative growth in yellow and i highlighted key countries where the you would expect more growth......i tried looking for england's stats, but i couldn't see it.
i looked under "england" and "united kingdom" but i can't see it.
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Apology to all
by wozadummy inthis is an apology to all for my recent posts, i did'nt mean to upset anyone .
just coping with leaving the org ,and the past ,and trying to support my wife who, as some know from my prevoius posts has tried to deal with her pedophile elder(past) father for many years now thru the org ,and then being badly treated by them and her large extended family (most are witnesses and are trying to silence her), made me hit rock bottom.
we are now taking action via the police and court system and she is barely coping ,and me being bi-polar does'nt help matters much and i fell into to an unreal state for a while as we don't have much support of any kind.
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This is an apology to all for my recent posts, I did'nt mean to upset anyone . Just coping with leaving the org ,and the past ,and trying to support my wife who, as some know from my prevoius posts has tried to deal with her pedophile Elder(past) father for many years now thru the org ,and then being badly treated by them and her large extended family (most are witnesses and are trying to silence her), made me hit rock bottom. We are now taking action via the police and court system and she is barely coping ,and me being bi-polar does'nt help matters much and I fell into to an unreal state for a while as we don't have much support of any kind. I guess those that suffer this disorder may understand what I'm tring to say. Any way I'm a bit better now and came back from the brink again of checking out. Again thanks for opportunity to apologise and I'll still follow this site with interest and learn alot and be encouraged but I'll try to be more balanced in the future by filtering my scrambled thoughts. Steve
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Thanks all now I'm leaving
by wozadummy indue to funkyderek i have come to the decision to leave this board.
when i posted on the current gay thread in a way that i thought would stimulate thinking and lighten up the seriosness of the thread and have a laugh, he and others put me down publically labelling me.
so i find it difficult now to continue posting knowing that someone has influenced others into thinking that i'm not worthy of being here because my phrasing and spelling is bad and that i'm apparently a "hyporite".
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Due to FUNKYDEREK I have come to the decision to leave this board. When I posted on the current gay thread in a way that I thought would stimulate thinking and lighten up the seriosness of the thread and have a laugh, he and others put me down publically labelling me. So I find it difficult now to continue posting knowing that someone has influenced others into thinking that I'm not worthy of being here because my phrasing and spelling is bad and that I'm apparently a "hyporite". I don't think I'm a bigot and hypocrite and I think I have lived long enough to learn to get along with others ,especially gays since they were part of my mothers social life as I was growing up and I got to know them and my own thinking as regards them. Despite being raped by one once when a child I see them as human beings with no less right to life than I do, for that was only one individual was'nt it? Men have raped women but that does'nt mean all men are the same does it? I was molested by my mother for years but that does'nt make all mothers perverts, and that is what we all learn in life I think. I certainly hope FUNKY reads the forum guidelines again and contributes positively in the future more posts and I would like to thank especially AlanF, Leolai, Auld soul and others for helping me break free from the JW's with their intelligent well researched comments. I have been really helped here as I've been trying for most of my life to overcome the past with phsychiatric help and the common spirit shown to me here by some has helped me in my quest for peace, but unfortunately some people have difficulty understanding others and how they try to express themselves. I never thought I would cry over this but it's like leaving freinds. Best wishes to all Steve
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Gays Leave JWD!
by hambeak ini got a phone call from a person that i gave my phone # to.
and this person said that gays are not welcome here and this is not what this board was really about.
i told them that this is only one part of the crap that the wts did to people and that we are people too.
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Ah I'm sorry FUNKY you've gone to so much trouble trying to put me down but I'm afraid my post was supposed to have a funny wink thingy on the end but since I've changed browsers I could'nt do that ,and I thought people might still pick up on my comments as a joke but it seems FUNKY that you've shown to me at least that you have let emotions lead your thinking and now you've publicly put me down the same as others put down gays. I'm sorry this has happened but I'll try to learn to spell better and use my computer better if you'll be more tolerant of me. Respectfully Steve
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As a DUB, what did you do and hid so as not to stumble anyone?
by megsmomma ini was thinking of all the "concious matters" that you could do if you wanted, but would not tell anyone so you wouldn't get in "trouble".
one thing that came to my mind is when after having my baby, i wanted to join weight watchers...there were two meeting places to choose from...one close to me and in a church....and one quite far not in a church.
well, i went to the one in the church, always worried someone would see me(but i didn't really think it was a big deal) so, what did you all hide?
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What a good topic!
Years ago my family and another would go windsurfing and we would to try and keep it quiet for we knew ones would condemn us "Oh they should use that time with their children in the service "
Well on one Sunday morning we arranged to go again after the meeting ,but my dear freind decided to save time and brought all the windsurfing gear on top of his car and parked it in the KH carpark during the meeting!
Well that did'nt go down to well as we were ministerial servants and the field service group met in the car park after the meeting!!lol
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Gays Leave JWD!
by hambeak ini got a phone call from a person that i gave my phone # to.
and this person said that gays are not welcome here and this is not what this board was really about.
i told them that this is only one part of the crap that the wts did to people and that we are people too.
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For some reason I feeled compelled to speak up and not with the usual politically correct phrases. I've read hambeak's posts and never really picked up on him being "gay" ,and you know I really like to read posts on different topics without the underlying tone of these posts being from a "gay"perspective. Some one phoning up like that is terrible to put somone down for ANY known thing which is, to me a private matter. Advertising your sexual inclinations on a primarily Jehovahs Witness discussion forum to me is tasteless and I don't give a shit if it's popular to condascend,fluff up, or pander to the whims of some people thru commenting on how terrible it is to bash verbally "gays". I hate this terminology given to "classes" of people ,labelling them and then they get verbally bashed don't they? If I had a bent for hiding cherbals in my butt and came on here seeking support from all because some dick abused me ,would you all rush to me with sympathetic messages to the same degree I wonder .What if I complained that I was born this way with "cherbal in my butt" fetish ,supposedly caused by my dna and too many fluffy teddies in my crib ,would I get the same response from all here ? For I think I should not for this is a discussion group for JW stuff is it not?
Or am I being labelled now as a poofter basher myself now, well no I should,nt be but that just depends on whether you all consider yourselves as sheep in white and I'm black. That's why I'm saying this coz to follow the popular flow of thinking is weakness as I see it and to pander to someones homosexuallity is just that. They are not victims but select it by intelligent choice and painting them as a minority is not true is it? So why the great displays of sympathy coz he's "gay"....he or she is human and should be EQUALLY treated as a person not a poor victim. If someone treats a crippled person badly does'nt that just make it a bad event from that other person ,and I would imagine that the crippled person would not want gushings of "oh you poor person " for we see you are a cripple. Some people stand out in this world by CHOICE and others suffer bigotry for being born disabled - now is anyone going now to say coz a "gay" says he's born that way he's a cripple, he could'nt help it?
I'm going to read hambeak's posts the same way as I always did ,with interest, I don't want to know if someones sexual leaning are this way or that ...if there is a god who judges all he will one day give the answer individually to each one's life and if he condemns"gays" at that moment, who will stand by them then I wonder?
Respectfully
Steve
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Sorry, I need to vent for a moment...
by Abandoned innormally, i don't mind where i'm at in my life.
i'm forty, no kids, low-paying job, live in a trailer court, etc (and trust me there's more to the etc, then i've already mentioned), but today i had a hard time.. one of my best friends from high school was a big dope head (no offense to the dope heads out there).
he showed up nearly every day to our first period art class smelling of weed and was generally so whacked out of his mind that he got horrible grades.. he finally graduated - barely - and made it to college.
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Flamin' carp are'nt biting tonight wink
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Sorry, I need to vent for a moment...
by Abandoned innormally, i don't mind where i'm at in my life.
i'm forty, no kids, low-paying job, live in a trailer court, etc (and trust me there's more to the etc, then i've already mentioned), but today i had a hard time.. one of my best friends from high school was a big dope head (no offense to the dope heads out there).
he showed up nearly every day to our first period art class smelling of weed and was generally so whacked out of his mind that he got horrible grades.. he finally graduated - barely - and made it to college.
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Oh PS ....We need you here to displace some of the Pommie arseholes who come here thinking they know how to watch and play cricket....You'd think they'd invented the game
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Sorry, I need to vent for a moment...
by Abandoned innormally, i don't mind where i'm at in my life.
i'm forty, no kids, low-paying job, live in a trailer court, etc (and trust me there's more to the etc, then i've already mentioned), but today i had a hard time.. one of my best friends from high school was a big dope head (no offense to the dope heads out there).
he showed up nearly every day to our first period art class smelling of weed and was generally so whacked out of his mind that he got horrible grades.. he finally graduated - barely - and made it to college.
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Ah ABANDONED ya poor sap! $7.50 an hour eh? Trailer park eh? My daughter in law told me what it's like there in USA when she moved here from there and it amazed me at how low the pay is in "ordinary" jobs. Crappy health service too eh? Jeez from reading your post I reckon you must be a good trusting guy that's an easy target for the shitheads who live there with you . Why don't you come out here and we'll look after you. Where's America the land of the free bs bs bs etc.....come to a country that appreciates honest true blue people. Hey don't just believe me, ask any of the other OZ posters here (but verify they are genuine OZ and not kiwis who moved from their beautiful country to here lol) Steve
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What are the qualifications for being of the "annointed"?
by hubert inam i correct to say that the "annointed" are the 144,000 that will be with jesus in heaven, according to the watchtower?.
if so, in ....luke 23:43...jesus said to "dismas" (the good thief) who was also being crucified along with jesus, "truly i tell you today you will be with me in paradise".. wouldn't this make dismus "one of the annointed"?.
wouldn't this also show that dismus, who had no qualifications for being of the annointed, went to heaven with jesus and became one?.
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Mary The GB realize that this scripture was a very dangerous one, because it would blow their theory that you simply are dead in the ground when you die. Thus, they simply moved the comma from before the word "today", thus claiming that Jesus did not promise the Evildoer that he would be anywhere but six feet under. Needless to say, there's not one other bible translation out there that places the comma after "today", but that shouldn't come as any big surprise. Leave the comma out then and consider this - Jesus was not ressurected till the third day so how could he say that Dismus would be in Paradise THAT day unless perhaps the both did come to life again immediately at death and went to heaven and Jesus waited there maybe until the third day to rise again to show his disciples he spoke truth about himself coming back for a while to strengthen them till he ascended again in the clouds. Of course this still puts paradise in heaven and not on earth for nothing here changed physically. Steve