i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
I could see them screaming religion persecution when they legitimately deserve sanctions for the pedophile cover up. Nothing's ever their fault; they're being picked on. And religious persecution must signal the great tribulation, right? What a slick way to spin this as fulfillment of prophecy and turn lemons into lemonade. Circle the wagons, donate as if your life depends on it, because it does.
Corrupt cult!
but still, they ask for more at every opportunity.
send in that ice cream money kids!.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/4/sales-watchtower-headquarters-and-two-other-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-properties-could.
konceptual99, that was an absolutely brilliant post! Thank you. Everything you said makes sense.
Oh boy. I see what I'm in for. Mom's assembly is this weekend and I've already sensed a chill in the air. I text her and get very short replies, or none at all. I faded, tried going to a few meetings in February to appease her, and faded again.
Will I be considered as "bad" as a disfellowshipped one? Are faders to be shunned too? I questioned a couple of teachings and got my head bit off. 😱
one year ago today my mom passed away.
she was 91 years old.
it has been really hard on me because i never expected what happened, to.have happened.
My mother has early Alzheimer's too. It's making her increasingly bitter about how her life has turned out, with me, her only daughter not attending the meetings, becoming unexpectedly a widow, and the biggy- the end still hasn't come.
She wants me to come out and visit her, but she says mean hurtful things, like "You need to have your head examined", "I don't know what's the matter with you, Virgochik, maybe I dropped you on your head when you were a baby" and plenty more zingers. It's so hard to even call her because she always works in comments about the meetings and demeans my character for not going, when basically I'm a pretty good person, I think. She lets me know how wonderfully the sisters help her out and makes digs at me, though I live about twelve hundred miles away and trips out to see her are expensive.
My heart goes out to all of you and wish you peace of mind. It's so hard knowing how much of their malice towards us is the disease, or their true feelings egged on by the cult. My mom could go at any time, and I may carry that gnawing question forever without an answer.
Sure wish I could blame it on the ALZ, but I've read up on it, and it basically takes the person's personality flaws and magnifies them. If she was always a sour negative person, she may be even more so.
This thread is so comforting and informative. Thanks to everyone who shares their journey.
may 16, 2016 to all congregations in britain re: donations to the worldwide work using jw.org.
adding it to the list.... may 2015 broadcast.
jehovah will care for our needs.
i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .
perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?
were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.
NY44M, I was baptized in Indiana too, in South Bend.
Great replies, much appreciated!
what are some false reasoning's behind some of the wt rules?.
birthdays:.
why is it forbidden as a jw to celebrate birthdays?
i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .
perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?
were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.
i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .
perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?
were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.
Hello, everyone. I am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.
I was baptized in 1973, you know, because I was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when Armageddon descended in 1975.
Perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because I honestly don't recall, and really need to know.
What were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then? Were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?
The reason I'm asking is, I'm attending a non-denominational church that I really enjoy, and I see them doing baptisms. I know not everyone here feels this way, but I personally want to be saved and accept Jesus as my savior. I wonder if my JW baptism is valid, or if I will want to have it redone at the church. It all depends I guess, on what I agreed to in 1973 and what the baptismal questions were. I know the current questions have been changed.
long video i guess addressing the many hard feelings of people getting the axe at brooklyn and other facilities.. the gist is - thanks for your help, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
or scripturally saying - "keep warm and well fed"p.s.
they are admitting that the are letting older ones go.. http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbrd_201605_5_video.
I couldn't watch it all. What a disgusting, hot steaming load of hogwash! My impression of him is that he's nervous and knows he's putting over lies and baloney. I hear insincerity in his voice. This isn't someone I'd trust if I met him doing business. Red flags went up for me.
Then there's the actual message which is ridiculous. Really, does God need to adjust so often because he didn't get it right? Is God so similar to a human sailor? Silly, just silly juvenile reasoning. I don't even know what to say for people who buy this stuff.
