Thousands of people go by each day...but does anyone stop? They really live in their fantasy world. Maybe people's hearts can only be scanned when passing the special magnetic field surrounding the cart?
That's so silly.
besides being a waste of time for those doing it, and being an easy way for the society to inflate its reports of time spent in the ministry, cart witnessing is also taking up space.
i live in a hot city in brazil.
today, the jws decided to set up their cart in the shady spot of the bus stop, where people going to work have to wait for the bus.. ugh!.
Thousands of people go by each day...but does anyone stop? They really live in their fantasy world. Maybe people's hearts can only be scanned when passing the special magnetic field surrounding the cart?
That's so silly.
by reliable sources, bethel us has recorded in 3 years:.
- 80 "out of the closet" confirmed.
- 200 departures requested by bethelites, where same reason is suspected.. - 20 censured ones "returning to the flock".
My grandpa's sister had a lifelong "companion" who claimed to be anointed. As a little girl, I thought they were mean old ladies but I had to go visit them anyway. They acted strange, may because they couldn't just be themselves.
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
Skin, to answer your question, when I attended a few meetings back in February, there were two other women near my age who had returned after 20-30 years away. All of us were in the 55-70 age bracket.
I was going thru a marital separation and was very vulnerable. My mom convinced me to go back.
Sister #2 was back after being gone many years. She was discouraged already, and sighed, "Well, where else do we go?"
Sister #3 was about 70 years old. Her husband had just passed away, and she was a lonely and vulnerable widow lady. She said she'd been away for 35 years, but was looking for meaning, so she came back to the Hall. She was really on board with her tablet and clicking the links to the scriptures during the clam. I really liked her. Sadly, I couldn't tell her why I quit coming because she'd be obligated to report it to the elders. I'd have liked to stay friends with her, but I couldn't tell her the truth.
I don't know about the other two, but I didn't stay long. It was the same old baloney as I left, no, even worse. After the life crisis passes, I suspect the fog clears and the "returning ones" probably drift away.
who was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
I remember the tedious afternoons on Saturday or Sunday when my father decided he had to shop for a new suit. His older ones were wearing out from so many wearings and dry cleanings. If I needed school shoes, it had to wait. He HAD to have nice suits for giving talks, even if his kid had outgrown her shoes, or the car needed work.
Hmmm, I'll bet he could've given the same talk in Dockers and a nice shirt, and it would've still been fine. Silly cult.
Edit: Humblest apologies, I meant to post this on the apparel thread. I feel so stupid!
earlier this year it was announced to all congregations that the new silver songbook would ultimately be made of 150 songs, (matching the number of psalms in the bible).
however, they've apparently changed there minds in the last few months, because songs 152-154 were just posted to both jw-org and jw broadcasting.. https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/.
https://tv.jw.org.
In my church, the songs are joyful. The music is contemporary and performed live. The musicians are good and the singers have great voices. We can't be standing there holding song books, because our hands are held up in praise, or clapping to the beat.
Sad they can't put their heart into it, but the songs are clunkers and not very inspiring. 😴 I love "Good, good Father."
http://www.fotocasa.es/inmobiliarias/benialsa-gestion-inmobiliaria-9202753892339/oficina/palma-de-mallorca/aire-acondicionado-calefaccion-amueblado-joan-crespi-2-138200558.
it is on sale the assembly hall of jehovah's witnesses in mallorca (spain) .
the money from the sale will travel to the heavenly paradise .... http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com.es/2016/05/profecia-cumplida-se-vende-el-salon-de.html.
Bizarre looking bunch. Buncha idjuts.
i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
I could see them screaming religion persecution when they legitimately deserve sanctions for the pedophile cover up. Nothing's ever their fault; they're being picked on. And religious persecution must signal the great tribulation, right? What a slick way to spin this as fulfillment of prophecy and turn lemons into lemonade. Circle the wagons, donate as if your life depends on it, because it does.
Corrupt cult!
but still, they ask for more at every opportunity.
send in that ice cream money kids!.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/4/sales-watchtower-headquarters-and-two-other-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-properties-could.
konceptual99, that was an absolutely brilliant post! Thank you. Everything you said makes sense.
Oh boy. I see what I'm in for. Mom's assembly is this weekend and I've already sensed a chill in the air. I text her and get very short replies, or none at all. I faded, tried going to a few meetings in February to appease her, and faded again.
Will I be considered as "bad" as a disfellowshipped one? Are faders to be shunned too? I questioned a couple of teachings and got my head bit off. 😱
one year ago today my mom passed away.
she was 91 years old.
it has been really hard on me because i never expected what happened, to.have happened.
My mother has early Alzheimer's too. It's making her increasingly bitter about how her life has turned out, with me, her only daughter not attending the meetings, becoming unexpectedly a widow, and the biggy- the end still hasn't come.
She wants me to come out and visit her, but she says mean hurtful things, like "You need to have your head examined", "I don't know what's the matter with you, Virgochik, maybe I dropped you on your head when you were a baby" and plenty more zingers. It's so hard to even call her because she always works in comments about the meetings and demeans my character for not going, when basically I'm a pretty good person, I think. She lets me know how wonderfully the sisters help her out and makes digs at me, though I live about twelve hundred miles away and trips out to see her are expensive.
My heart goes out to all of you and wish you peace of mind. It's so hard knowing how much of their malice towards us is the disease, or their true feelings egged on by the cult. My mom could go at any time, and I may carry that gnawing question forever without an answer.
Sure wish I could blame it on the ALZ, but I've read up on it, and it basically takes the person's personality flaws and magnifies them. If she was always a sour negative person, she may be even more so.
This thread is so comforting and informative. Thanks to everyone who shares their journey.