Virgochik

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  Church of Scientology w/Leah Remini on Conan Video Resembles What Watchtower Does to Apostates

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  started watching this video and the similarities to the watchtower is very similar.

  then again evil organizations are basically all the same.. https://streamable.com/the9t.

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  Yes, I was amazed at the shunning, disconnecting, long periods of shaming and punishment before re-admitting, and disengagement from family members who leave or speak against the cult.

  This corresponds with shunning, disfellowshipping and reinstatement, and cutting off ties with family or apostates. They use that word too. Both cults forbid talking to former members. Both spy on members they suspect of wrongdoing, and destroy families. Both have lavish headquarters and their own "language" which only members use. Both expect unquestioning obedience to the leaders as loyalty to God.

  A woman formerly high up in SeaOrg was interviewed. She was sexually abused when underage. Her family was told not to go to the police, and that the elders would handle it internally. Sound familiar?

  As I watched, I just kept saying, wow, that's just like the Witnesses- two cults which are so much alike.
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  Convicted Child Rapist Proselytizing. Is the Community Aware? Is the Community Safe?

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wow, this is awesome.

  this really shows the jw passiveness towards child sex abusers.

  there needs to be more of this exposing this!.

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  Does anyone know what ever became of this matter? My husband and I recently moved and it occurred to me that we're living in this congregation's area. It's entirely conceivable "brother" Ivery could knock on our door. We live near Garden of the Gods Road in Colorado Springs, and Buckingham Rd is just off of GOG Rd.

  My husband's reaction might be even worse than mine! 😠
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  Why JW's have a paedophile problem

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just ran across this quote which resonated with me.. by way of introduction, hmp whatton is europe's largest prison for contact and non contact sex offenders against adults and children.

  it's based in nottinghamshire in the uk.. david potter is one of hmp whatton's most experienced facilitators of treatment programmes.. in an interview with the bbc he said "in groups, a lot of the work we do is aimed at building the self-esteem of people that have committed a sexual offence, because a lot of sexual offending is as a direct result of low self-esteem.

  in groups we try and build their sense of self worth.".

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  Or, are they attracting people into the org who already have pedophilia tendencies because it's so easy to get away with it in the Hall? I truly don't know. These people could be bringing their baggage with them when they become JW'S. And yes, they could feel increasingly worthless and looking for ways to vent their low self esteem.

  It could be a combination. It's kind of a which came first question, imho.
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  Not one visit, 8 years in a nursing home, and not one visit!

  by Raymudas Martini in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad{rip}, was a faithful jw since the year i was born, i'm 60, he died 2 years ago.

  his last 12 years were spent in an assisted living/nursing home right in the small town where he spent the last 8 years of being an elder/pioneer.

  when he went into the home, one brother would visit him regularly, but after 4 years, that friend moved away, and visitation from the locals ceased, for 8 years!!!!!!!

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  Virgochik

  My elderly mom recently told me my darling cousin, who was a missionary in Central America, got married to a Bethel brother. They're at Patterson now, where dear cousin's husband helps with making the videos. So sad, they never even invited her to their wedding but she's still gushing over them. A letter, a text or a phone call would mean a lot to her. She can't drive any more and days can be long.

  I told her point blank these kids are delusional, living in their little bubble, if they think they're the bomb for video production but lack love for their own family.
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  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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  Been there, done that and it still seems like yesterday. My dad was an elder and I was making him look bad. I caved in to threats and got baptized. What a mistake. He threw it at me constantly "You got baptized, you dedicated your life to Jehovah, now keep your vow."

  I had to go to meetings, missing as many as I could, and I got a job. I saved every penny. One evening, a buddy I worked with pulled up in his pickup truck and moved me to an apartment I'd rented with two roommates. I planned all of it in advance.

  Because I was now baptized, the elders started popping up at the apartment. They pounded on the front door, trespassed into the back yard, rapping on the patio door, and left notes that they needed to talk to me. It was all very stressful for me and annoying for my roommates.

  Please, do yourself a favor. Don't get baptized and don't go through this. Hang on a bit longer, plan quietly, and escape.
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  The definition of a false prophet

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the last time i spoke to my mother, who is a devout jw, she threatened me with typical jw scare tactics telling me how oh so close the end is and how me and my 2 young daughters will be slaughtered by god himself in armageddon.

  knowing that this is just a scare tactic, i respectfully listened, then replied that the jw's have wrongfully predicted the end of the world three times and were incorrect, 1914, 1925, 1975. i asked doesn't that make them false prophets?

  her response; " no, because the brothers are imperfect and jehovah knew their heart was in a sincere place.

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  So, as you search for answers about the false prophecies, she refers you to the false prophets? Oh no.
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  My mother's treatment. Unreal.

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i disassociated myself 3 years ago but have never told my mother, as she lives quite a distance from me in the uk.

  i've have told her that i no longer go to meetings, neither does my son, who is 16.. i haven't seen her for 3 1/2 years.

  i offered to come visit this week but she was incredibly offhand with me and said she couldn't meet with me today as she was on the ministry!!

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  I spent $1700 traveling several states away to visit my elderly mom on short notice, so the flight was expensive. "The Friends" 😬 said she was unwell and I should come. Of the five days I was out there, I saw her three times. The last day of my trip, Sunday, she left me sitting in a motel room while she went to the meeting; afterwards she went to lunch with "the friends." She texted me at 4:30 in the afternoon that she was free and I could come over now.

  She wonders why I didn't come visit her this year. Gee, I wonder why.
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  Washington Post is carrying the story: Australian Jehovah’s Witnesses protected over a thousand members accused of child abuse, report says

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/28/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-protected-over-a-thousand-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/.

  over the course of about six decades, more than 1,000 members of the jehovah’s witnesses were accused of sexually abusing australian children, according to a new report.

  victims were ordered to keep quiet.

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  Second birthday!

  by Nihilistic Journey in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  turning 42 and celebrating my second birthday!

  there's some strange crap only we could understand..

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  Happy birthday! I'm like a little kid, excited and telling everybody it's my birthday each year. Do you find that because you never had them, it's new and all the more exciting? Hope you enjoy your special day thoroughly.
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  Sanctimonious, "WE'RE Thankful EVERY day."

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thanksgiving is really just a nice, traditional, family-oriented day set aside on a national level.

  no babylon the great.

  give me a break with the holier than thou, "we don't celebrate thanksgiving.

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  Virgochik

  Being thankful- a huge sin apparently.