Posts by Shador

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Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Shador

The evidence is prophesy fullfilled.

Ok, you're just trolling now.

33

Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Shador

Hold up. Let's just back up here a second, missy.

First off, the proper pronoun is he.

Secondly, age has nothing to do with the evidence. I'm 30, btw, and I honestly don't give a flying fuck how old you are.

Third, I'm pagan, not atheist, though I was an atheist for a time. Either way, I could give a shit less if you think I'm an "anti-christ" For the record, Christ seems like an okay guy. It's his followers that piss me off.

Four, I have studied the Bible and, more important, I have studied ABOUT the Bible. (Most scholars will tell you that Moses, by the way, did not write the first five books, they are compliations from a much later time. The Gospels likely weren't written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John either.) I see no evidence of inspiration in the Bible or any other "holy" book, not even my belief system's own Edda. Largely holy books are 1) history and 2) morality tales (the morality of which may or may not be applicable today).

Five, unlike religious fanatics, I am willing to change my view if sufficient evidence is given. I note, interestingly, that you have not bothered to provide evidence of the "divine inspiration" of the Bible, only unfounded assertions.

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Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Shador

Ugh. I know. That "definition" is so assinine.

The standard for what is orthodox, however, should be God’s Word (Why? and which God, anyway?), and Jehovah’s Witnesses strictly adhere to (their own version of) the Bible. (upon close study of the Bible, it is clearly solely of human origin and bears no evidence of "divine inspiration" whatsoever.)

Their worship is a way of life, not a ritual devotion. (False dichotomy - ritual devotion can be [and for JWs, is] a way of life)

They neither follow a human (no, they follow a group of them. Nice try, WTB$) nor isolate themselves from the rest of society. (Yes, yes they do.) They live and work in the midst of other people. (But have no social contact beyond that, save for the "preaching work". This is isolation, just not the physical kind.)

Yea, I know, I'm preaching to the choir here, but I just gotta vent.

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Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Shador

Lol. So my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that JWs are not a cult. They just checked TWO different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to JWs. Their reaction: "These dictionaries are no good." Truely insane. It was all I could do not to bust out laughing.

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Do you agree with this sentiment?

by mankkeli in

jw
friends

i copied this text from a friend's wall on facebook, do you agree with his sentiment?.

"this world is not our home.

we are strangers here.

Shador

Yes and no. I do believe that there is something after death. Christians call it Heaven, I call it Valhalla, still others think we just cycle back around the earth again.

Still that doesn't mean that we should ignore this life. I think we need to live this life to the best of our ability. I don't think *insert deity name* would want us to ignore what is going on here simply because it's "only temporary".

Besides, the atheists could be right and we may only get one shot. Shame to waste it.

9

I saw the gods last night...

by EntirelyPossible in

the gods of metal!

big 4, yankee stadium, metallica, megadeth, slayer, anthrax.

eight hours of show with some of the greatest thrash metal bands to have ever existed playing their best to an utterly packed crowed at yankees stadium, finishing off with all off the big 4 playing overkill, a tribute to lemmy and his band motorhead, one of the original metal gods.. .

Shador

<---- Jealous x infinity.

5

How would you spend your time?

by Jack C. in

jw
friends

let's say it was revealed via the media and scientific community that a planet wide catastrophe such as a large comet or asteroid impact or even a brush with a large planetary body or black hole was emminant and that it was certain to devistate the planet in say 18 months.

how would you spend the remaining time?

if the event was considered possibly survivable by maybe a few million what action, if any would you take?

Shador

Jack, You have a PM.

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"Unscriptural to say a former child abuser could never enjoy exemplary privleges of service." Oh really?

by headisspinning in

it is a known fact that on average a pedophile will abuse as many as 200 children in his/her lifetime.. with that in mind.

read an extract from an august 1, 1995 letter to all bodies of elders in the usa.. i guess these untrained elders are somehow experts in this area and can determine if someone will reoffend even though law enforcement, psychiatrists and specialists cannot offer the same guarantee and in many cases will even suggest that these known sex offenders are very likely to reoffend when the opportunity presents itself.... to all bodies of elders in the united states.

august i, 1995.

Shador

I would love to have a scan of that letter...

Seconded.

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How would you spend your time?

by Jack C. in

jw
friends

let's say it was revealed via the media and scientific community that a planet wide catastrophe such as a large comet or asteroid impact or even a brush with a large planetary body or black hole was emminant and that it was certain to devistate the planet in say 18 months.

how would you spend the remaining time?

if the event was considered possibly survivable by maybe a few million what action, if any would you take?

Shador

Personally, I would like to travel. I'd like to see Scotland and Ireland. Also, Germany (maybe even the military hospital where I was born). I'd probably watch all my favorite movies and shows one last time. Also I'd really, really like to get laid. I would hate to die without having tried it at least once.

The Witlesses, of course would believe that somehow they, and only they would be the lucky few million and that this was Armageddon™

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Pay Attention book.

by Shador in

just wondering if anyone has a pdf of the most recent "elder's manual" i have a pdf of the '91 version, but i'm sure there's been plenty of new lighttm since then..

Shador

Thanks. Just thumbing through it. This was interesting under DFing offenses:

"Celebrating false religious holidays: (Ex. 32:4-6; Jer. 7:16-19) Not all holidays directly involve false religion and require judicial action."

Never heard that before. I thought all holidays were equally bad.

And later:

"The elders do well not to involve themselves in what individual do with regard to petty gambling solely for entertainment."

You mean, a "poker night with the boys" might be okay?

Interesting. I'll have to look in more detail later.