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  Buttons, are they necessarily dangerous?

  by White Dove in

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  2. experiences

  or do they have some kind of benefit to us, such as self-preservation?.

  i learned that i had another button to add to the two i already had.. my buttons are:.

  questioning in a judgmental way my parenting methods.

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  Still, I desire to be a nice person.
  But heaven help the button pushers.
  Isn't there some kind of balance to be struck here?

  Y'know, I have, over time, explored many philosiphies, beliefs, and worldviews. A lot of times I will take away from them various points I agree with - sort of an "a la carte" approach to a belief system. I mention this to say that, during my explorations, I pulled the following good rules on dealing with people from one of the many viewpoints I have explored:

  • When in another's lair (territory, turf, etc.), show him respect or else do not go there.
  • If a guest in your lair (territory, turf, etc.) annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
  • When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

  Which is to say, if someone is "pushing your buttons" - if you are on their turf, leave. If they are on your turf or neutral ground (public, etc.), feel free to rip them a new asshole and feel no guilt or shame about it.
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  The GB Knew What They Were Doing

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe that the governing body knew very well what would be the consequences of publishing the above article on apostates.

  they carefully word every article, not only for the faithful, but for the unfaithful, and for those who have never believed our faith.

  the above article and the comments here show me their great wisdom, because they have achieved exactly what they wanted.

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  Maybe they really did. Strengthening the persecution complex of the r&f, by deliberately causing the "persecution."
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  Local Needs: Low Hours

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the local needs was about low fs time in the cong.

  about 1/3 of publishers are averaging 4 hours per month.

  that is unprecedented in our cong, a usually 'zealous' congregation.. my take is this: if you don't believe it yourself, why are you going to waste valuable time telling others?

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  Then you have those who do the "pioneer shuffle" in service, barely walking and counting all of that as witnessing time. Those time reports must be so off.

  Heh. I've started using a technique a (on the edge) brother told me, semi-jokingly, many years ago - "Tie's on, clock's running." Combine that with a rural territory, far-out calls, groups who believe in extended "breaks", and people who leave the group in the car for an hour-long "return visit", and pioneering is easy. I'm going to get 100 hours this month and I haven't really done jack shit.
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  Witnesses =Saying "bloody Mary" x 3 in mirror WILL cause demon attacks...mental conditioning?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yes according to witnesses anything can cause demon attacks even buying old furniture, the wrong {haunted} house or article of clothing....don't forget those evvvvil smurfs!

  some witnesses share stories about how they were attacked by demons in the night.

  like my witness friend who claims his bed levitated after reading ghost stories....is this just mental conditioning or is he just nuts?.

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  Personally, I think there are many of these beings out there. "Spirits", "aliens", "gods", "ghosts", "angels", "demons" - people call them different things. Like us, there are good ones and bad ones. I think the reason many JWs and other fundies have bad experiences when involved in occult activity is that their instilled fear of the "demons" actually creates negative energy that draws the bad "spirits" to them.

  The "Bloody Mary" legend is by no means confined to JWs. - http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/bloodymary.asp
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  New Literature Arrangement

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just recently the org has changed the literature distribution to the congregation members.. the changes are:.

  1) publishers are to pick-up their mag's weekly in preparation for what they think they will use that week.

  2) group conductors shall now distribute the study article of the wt, and the km.. wonder why they have changed this?.

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  Yes, as a current Mag servant, I can say that this has been going on for quite some time now in the US. In fact, just last month, in our congregation, ALL personal copies (public and private) are now given through your Group Overseer (this apparently was an option in the original letter). Copies for use in field service are still self-serve, though.

  It does strike me as odd that they go through such rigamarole to keep the physical copy of the "study edition" private, then make it available to the general public anyway on the website.
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  The Walrus Was Paul

  by MoneurMallard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many new testament biblical students today of both messianic jewish and christian backgrounds, are finding out that paul of tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of new testament theology.

  there is an article i've recently read, from the judaism vs. christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic.... well, now i cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:.

  http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm.

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  Shador

  I am the egg-man. Gu, gu, ga-joob.
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  You have lost your job and your house, your down to your last $1,000. How will you make out at the end of the month?

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  poor people are poor simply cus they cant manage their money, right?

  wrong.

  you have lost your job and your house, you are down to your last $1,000.. how would you make out at the end of the month.. accept the challenge, .

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  I made it with $289. Of course, my car is likely to be repossessed, the rent is due, and my tooth is rotting out.
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  Email to BBC

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am about to send an email to bbc world service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'.

  following is a draft of the email i was thinking of using.

  any suggestions welcome.

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  Shador

  Excellent idea. I hope they pick up on this. I noticed that it was on the Independent and the Telegraph, which I guess are local UK papers. But if this hits the BBC, it will have a good chance of going worldwide. At the least, it will give the WTB$ a nice big black eye.
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  Jehovah the Pedophile

  by MoneurMallard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  num 31:17 now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

  num 31:18 but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

  is it any wonder why so many turn a bad leaf when it comes to sexual morality in the jehovah's witness organization.

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  Indeed. I never tire of this quote - it seems ever appropriate whenever anyone brings up the horrible crap in the Bible:

  “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it, a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” - Richard Dawkins
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  As a JW - Did you See Meetings Continue in Spite of Medical Emergencies?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking the other day with a fellow board member about medical emergencies occuring at meetings and how we both agreed that we ( while jw's ) had never seen a meeting stop or be cancelled due to medical emergencies experienced by a fellow jw.

  the wt society trains jw' s to lose their authentic human feelings or any empathy towards others physical or emotional sufferings many times.

  so many times at meetings , in spite of someone suffering a serious medical emergency it was " the show must go on " type of attitude displayed by congregation elders.. my first experience at seeing a medical emergency at the kingdom hall was an older sister who had an epileptic attack.

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  I remember an elder giving a talk when his wife got up to go out looking unwell. She only got a few paces down the aisle when she dropped to the floor - he did not miss a syallable of his talk.

  Wow. [sarcasm] What an excellent witness that must have been for any interested ones attending. "My wife has passed out, but this drivel is so all-fired important that I'll ignore her. HOW HAPPIFYING!" [/sarcasm]