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  FL Represent!

  by IcingHeart in

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  who else is from florida?

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  liberatedwoman

  Gainesville area here (go gators!)

  Anyone interested in a florida apostafest, perhaps in central fl??
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  How did you spend the memorial?

  by sinis in

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  personally, i stayed at home (my wife went), made steaks, drank beer, and watched several vulgar/demonic movies in the world of the jw's (halloween, the eye, hitman, no country for old men, saw iv).

  i later went over to my mother in laws house to meet up with some other in laws - who i saved from the jw's - and talked about how the memorial was a waste of f@cking time... then drank more beer waiting for my wife to come back...

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  I drove past the KH on my way to attend a homebirth. Glancing at all the cars and everyone in their easter memorial finery gathered around the doorway, I offered up a silent prayer of thanks for my liberation. Later that evening, walking down a dirt road with my pregnant client, under the full moon, bathed in the scent of wisteria I was grateful for my ability to live an authentic life.

  Easter Sunday, and I welcomed an 8lb girl gently into the world as her mother birthed her into my hands underwater. Life is good!

  Lynne
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  Anyone ever see these before?? JW albums

  by noni1974 in

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  i've never seen them before.i found them for sale in a box of albums at a bar i went to tonight.i paid 1.00 for them..

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  I am embarrased to admit that we borrowed the entire set, and a record player, from a pioneer sister and her elder husband, so that we could have "uplifting" music playing at our first birth (at home) in 1975. My most vivid memory is of starting to push accompanied by the strains of "Now's the Time" - we didn't plan it, just happened LOL!

  After all was done and we were alone with our new baby girl, ex-DH played "We thank you Jehovah".

  Honestly, it is amazing to me that I was such an idiot for so long...................

  Lynne
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  Is this true what I just read?

  by worldtraveller in

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  mr. comacho,.

  you call people dumb but many of them have first hand knowledge about the jw religion.

  and, they do control their followers...did you know that non-jw are considered goats?!?

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  I remember a talk in which the witnesses were praised for being "sheep-like ones" who heeded the voice of their Shepherd....not like the "goats" we meet, who when we offer the truth say "but, but, but.."

  Probably a CO special talk...

  Aaah yes, "delightfully correct words of truth" and "spiritual food in due season"

  I think I just threw up a little in my mouth......
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  Who's celebrating Yule?

  by White Dove in

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  my daughter and i went to our very first yule ritual/celebration.

  it was a beautiful ceremony with masks and costumes of the sun lord, white lady, and the raven of annwyn (sic?).

  we witches (i'm in training) sure eat a lot of food (for grounding).

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  I will observe it by attending the annual Veterans for Peace concert in my town. It is always full of wonderful music, and humor (some political, some just downright silly) and is held on Solstice each year. The Vets for Peace organization figures that if those who have served and seen combat can't state their opinions about war, who can? It is a powerful and emotional occassion - and my only holiday "must do".

  As a solitary practitioner, I do not engage in any ritual - just observe the wheel of the year turning as an internal devotion.

  Lynne
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  Sorry?

  by RichieRich in

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  over the past few days... someone who i'm no longer associated with has been out on vendetta to discredit me.

  it started with a mass mail to my myspace friends, which caused nothing more than a few eyebrows to be raised.

  that was the reaction of people who know me in real life.

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  Richie,

  I am mostly a lurker, but have followed your story with interest. I, for one, will miss your updates and latest body art/modifications.

  All the best,

  Lynne
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  Anyone Close to North Florida?

  by Synergy in

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  i live in tallahassee and i'd love to meet other exjw's that i knew before or that are from around here that i've never met.

  please get in touch with me if you are close by.

  also anyone that wants to do demonstrations let me know.

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  I am in the Gainesville area - was in the Cross City congregation for a number of years out in good ol' Dixie County! Would love to get an Apostafest together, what do you think??
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  The WT is again reminding women of their "proper role"

  by mjarka911 in

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  2. bible

  the 3/1/06 wt questions from readers is discussing 1 cor 14:33,34 and explains the phrase "keep silent".

  after the usual claptrap and disclaimers (like how sometimes women have to substitute for baptized men in a congregation setting) - it concluded by saying women keep silent by "not raising argumentative questions that could challenge the authority of those who teach.

  " how do the women swallow this stuff and still feel grateful for "rich spiritual food"?

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  The reason for my name on this forum! The way women were treated in the organization was a HUGE part of my leaving....we had elders in our cong who could barely read (really, I mean it - they would stutter and stumble over long words), the ministerial servants were similar, but NO WAY could a sister even consider something like a bible reading on the TMS. I would sit and cringe at meetings, and know I could do a better job....only time I've ever had penis envy LOL!

  The way women were treated in judicial matters was another big reason for my fade and then DA. I had been the recipient of several counseling sessions about my lack of wifely subjection...grrrrrrr
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  "A Time to Speak"----When? (with scans).

  by Atlantis in

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  2. beliefs

  (adds found on pictiger are not associated with jwd) urls for watchtower scans can be found at the bottom.

  (from kent's old archive).

  this was the title on an article in the watchtower 1987 9/1, pages 12-15. this article should scare any employer that do have employees that are jehovah's witnesses.

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  WOW! I wonder if there will be "new light" on this now that in the US we have HIPAA regulations that are very explicit about the right to privacy - you know, that annoying paperwork you get every time you go to a new health care practitioner.

  When I was director of a midwifery service all employees and students assigned to clinical rotations had to sign a confidentiality agreement, renewed annually. Breaching this was grounds for instant dismissal. The penalties to employers are substantial, and enforcement is by the Office of Civil Rights - and nobody wants an OCR investigation of their facility!!

  And BTW - what was "Mary" doing working somewhere that provided terminations of pregnancy? I do hope she cleaned up her act and went to work doing something that will maintain her spiritual cleanliness (though perhaps provide her with less titillating information about the medical conditions of her fellow dubs)
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  Advice is to Beat the kids......still!

  by Gill in

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  this is the watchtower for april 1, 2006, page 9.. 'parents be a fine example for your children.'.

  '....of course, children are children, and some are prone to be contrary, even wayward.

  (genesis 8:21) what can parents do?

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  Brigid,

  I hope you did not read my post as dismissing your experience. Far from it - I took a lot of flack from elders, older sisters in the congregation (attempting to do their duty and "recall me to my sense"), and my (mentally unbalanced but VERY theocratic!) now ex-husband. At various times I was told that I should not breastfeed my babies "on demand" because they would manipulate me..."they know how to get their own way" apparently at less than 6 months old....should not pick up and hold my babies so often, lest I spoil them....should start spanking early (and often!) lest I become too soft on them....and on and on and on.

  I chose to ignore most of this wise counsel, having looked long and hard at the results of the excellent childrearing practices being pushed on me LOL! It may have helped that I was not reared a JW, and grew up in the UK (albeit during a time when spanking was considered normal). I was aware of other children in our KH who were punished harshly and had unreasonable (considering their age and developmental stage) demands placed on them - but given the prevailing climate and the fact that some of the parents of these kids were elders did not feel able to intervene.

  I feel a good deal of guilt over the years I spent subjecting my children to meetings, field service and assembly attendance. I resent the years that we lost to the borg, and am relieved that none of them has any interest in returning to the "fold". They see the hypocrisy and lack of love in the way that I was treated and the way their father is still considered a "fine theocratic brother"....