Posts by AudeSapere

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A Beloved and Compassionate Elder Trapped in a Cult Just Died , What should I do?

by TastingFreedom in

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i just heard the sad news that a very loving and kind elder for the congregation that i belonged to for 15 years just died from a heart attack.

he was someone that i had great admiration and deep respect for, even now that i'm out from the jws.

he was my mentor and an inspiration to me as an elder, and in many ways he showed me the contradictions of the wts, he was a breath of fresh air within a cult.

AudeSapere

It's almost like they wont even let me mourn the loss of someone who was very special/close to me.

They don't see that you have a right to mourn with them. Many also think that when we leave the organization, we leave all loving feelings behind or that any we have are clouded with guilt.

Really tough to know how they would treat you personally if you decided to attend the service at the hall. Seems to me that you should go - because you *want* to go. Maybe give a simple, non-preachy card to his wife and maybe also to other family that were close to you.

If you decide not to go, and/or if it doesn't give you the comfort and closure that you desire, you can always do a little ceremony by yourself or with your family. Something at the beach, in the mountains, or at his gravesite.

Really sorry to learn of your loss. Sounds like he was a good man.

-Aude.

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On taking offense and taking responsibility

by Lion Cask in

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the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

AudeSapere

[Long response removed after I decided that I was going off-topic to the OP]

So I'll just say this: The corn analogy... Colorful. Maybe disgusting to some, but colorful. Not offensive - to me at least. Now, if you had posted PHOTOS... That would be different.

-Aude.

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Los Testigos de Jehova y las transfusiones de sangre

by porfiada in

hola amigos.

si tiene alguna duda o pregunta sobre el tema de las transfusiones de sangre, visiten:.

http://www.ajwrb.org/tjinfo.htm.

AudeSapere

Posting Guideline 8: Posting in a language other than English.

Can you please translate to English?

Thank you!

18

Do you have any Spinach recipes that you like?

by Iamallcool in

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AudeSapere

marking for later.

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Where would a JW marry a non-JW? A KH?

by InterestedOne in

am i correct that jw marrying a non-jw is frowned upon but not forbidden?

if it's not forbidden, would the elders do the marriage in the kh?

i know the jw is forbidden to attend a non-jw religious ceremony, so another church would be out.

AudeSapere

I'm pretty sure that in most congregations the entire bridal party is expected/required to be members 'in good standing' or else they will not allow a KH ceremony.

My unbaptized brother married a baptized & active JW about 12 years ago. Because the future daughter-in-law was not marrying 'in the Lord' (my mother's son), my mother was advised to go to the Courthouse Wedding. Two days before the wedding mom got the OK to attend. (She was pissed and hurt that noone wanted her suggestions about cake, flowers, and catering.]

So the simple concensus is: NO. Definitely not allowed in KH. Go to Justice of the Peace.

-Aude.

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Nothing......

by ziddina in

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AudeSapere

Please, please Mister Postman???

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How is the transfer from a congregation handled by the elders?

by trevorbv in

if any of you were elders how is the transfer from a congregation handled?

how do elders know where to send the proclaimer's file and letter of recommendation?

does it go through the local branch if in the same country?

AudeSapere

Can the process be hijacked?

Are you trying to see if you can 'intercept' the process and take possession of your records and publisher record card?

If so, someone here may be able to help you.

-Aude.

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DA Letter Script - Minimum Requirements?

by alias in

if i am to write and send the minimal of a da letter, stating that i do not consider myself a jw (baptized as a minor), what do i need to include in the letter to make it valid?

1. who should the letter be addressed to?

(do i need to send duplicates: one to local cong, one to headquarters?).

AudeSapere

If you submit yourself to *any* of their 'requirements' then you are, well, still under their control.

If you choose to write something, here is one of the most simple DA Letters you can do:

Tack a note to the KH door that says: "Dear Watchtower Society - You're Fired! Sincerely, Alias"

This idea taken from this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/115099/1/I-fired-the-Watchtower-Society

Congrats on your decision to leave. Myself, I am not DF'd and did not DA. Merely up and walked out of the Hall in the middle of a talk one day.

-Aude.

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What is the source of this photo?

by possible-san in

what is the source of this photo?.

was this printed in a wts's publication?.

although i know this photo well, i'd like to have persuasiveness when i explain to other people.. .

AudeSapere

Nic - Thanks for clarifying.

I was not sure. Merely posted what I found in my quick search.

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New Have You Seen My Mother reveiw.... "cult of Witnesses"

by Bryan in

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she printed that my said father said i was thrown up against a wall, actually he said "across the room onto the bed"..

AudeSapere

BTTT (Because I want to remember to buy this book) Hopefully it's still available somewhere.)