AudeSapere

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  In Riverside Ca. I heard on the news Someone open fire on JW,s at there door.

  by jam in

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  i was half a sleep when i heard this on the news, don,t know all the details,.

  but if this true , this will certainly slow down door the door work.. can anyone confirm this.

  i heard it on nbc ch.

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  AudeSapere

  (Strange. My post above showed up blank - and twice I tried to edit it but got error message.)

  Here is link to the article found on KNBC's website:

  http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Man-Arrested-for-Firing-Gun-at-Man-Distributing-Religious-Flyer-119584074.html

  I will post the actual article in other thread.

  -Aude.
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  In Riverside Ca. I heard on the news Someone open fire on JW,s at there door.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was half a sleep when i heard this on the news, don,t know all the details,.

  but if this true , this will certainly slow down door the door work.. can anyone confirm this.

  i heard it on nbc ch.

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  In Riverside Ca. I heard on the news Someone open fire on JW,s at there door.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was half a sleep when i heard this on the news, don,t know all the details,.

  but if this true , this will certainly slow down door the door work.. can anyone confirm this.

  i heard it on nbc ch.

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  AudeSapere

  I heard it on the news tonight, too, but cannot find a written story about it. Been googling for an hour.

  I *think* they said that the guy was arrested and that noone was hurt. The anchor said that he shot at them as they were leaving his house (getting into their car?). It happened in Riverside County, near Perris.

  If I find an article, I'll post it.

  -Aude.
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  Old JW Movie

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought this might be worth running again as there are new ones on here that may not have ever known about this.this movie was shown once a year at our hall during the 60's and into the 70's as well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzfu_vcwqso.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odyuwezapme&feature=related.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlie8jiihd4&feature=related.

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  I remember the radio programs that aired in NYC and Pittsburgh in the mid 70's but did not know there were TV shows, too.

  Funny.

  -Aude.
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  DISCUSSION board.......or.....COMMENT board?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following is only my own personal analysis.. take it or leave it.

  but, by all means jump in and have a say.. .

  i think more and more we are losing our grasp on a wonderful venue at jw-net.. as a discussion board, i mean.. at one time, there were a great many wonderful and interesting discussions by a variety of persons with varied backgrounds having a good.

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  [Marking for later]
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  Watch Tower Society Facing Criminal Charges and Indictment in Australia

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  andersonsinfo is reporting the following news about the "criminal charges and indictment of the watch tower society in australia" by taking some extracts from different parts of jehovah's witness, steven unthank's blog site, http://www.jwnews.net.

  please go to the blog to understand the "indictment" and for detailed reading there is much more information found in a:.

  pdf version of the 664 page document "the submission 2011" being the:.

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  AudeSapere

  [marking for follow-up reading later]
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  What happens in vegas...

  by cyberjesus in

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  AudeSapere

  I think she's got a little Giada DeLaurentis thing going on.

  Still don't know if this a joke or not. Oh well!

  -Aude.
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  Please help me to find the right word for it!

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am looking for decoration to put around my computer monitor.

  it looks like a picture frame, but it has picture of different things like the sea, etc.....i want to buy it to make the computer room to look little bit better.

  can you tell me the right word for it, so i can google it, so i can buy it online.

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  Decorative Computer Frame?
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  Has anyone left still believing it was the truth?

  by FollowedMyHeart in

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  2. beliefs

  it seems that most xjws have left because at one point in their jw life something happened that made them start to think something wasn't right with the religion.

  when i left, i still believed the jws had "the truth".

  i was dying inside, trapped and unhappy (another poster's words, but describes exactly how i felt).

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  I did.

  I thought it was the 'truth', 'God's Chosen People'. But also really thought that the organization was heading down a wrong path as several things just seemed so wrong and I was getting creepy vibes from one or two elders. Tried to switch halls a few times but still didn't feel right.

  One day - I think it was a Sunday - I got up in the middle of a talk, said a quick little prayer to myself ("Jehovah - you know better than I do why I cannot stay here. But it just feels very wrong to sit quietly in my seat with these people.") and walked out of the hall for the last time. I felt I was being complicit by my presence in the hall and believed that at some point in our lives we are called upon to stand on our own and answer not just for our actions, but also for our in-action. It's one thing to follow theocratic order. But isn't is something else if that 'order' is leading people further away from Jehovah?

  When the Israelites started serving the golden calf (??), was it just the leaders that were punished? Just because the leaders said it was OK, did that make it so? Could the individuals be excused for their sins simply by saying "The leaders that you gave us said it was OK"? I felt by sitting in my seat that I was saying that I agreed with everything that the elders were saying and allowing. In fact, I did not. I had my own crisis of conscience by staying in my seat.

  After I walked out of the hall that day, for the next 13+ years, I worked, took a couple of classes, and kept to myself. I had no real friends. Did not date. Did not do drugs or drink heavily. I did not smoke. I thought by keeping to myself I was showing respect for Jehovah. Witness friends didn't hang around me because I was now inactive. I didn't call them because they would ask why I wasn't attending and I didn't want to 'stumble' them with my own questions. I didn't want to hang around non-witnesses because I thought they would be bad association. I also thought that at some point I would return to the cong and become active again - when they cleaned up their own act.

  Before that happened, I learned the truth about 'The Truth'. Wasted 20 years in the org and another 13 years in self-imposed social isolation. Oh! What a fool I was.

  So, yes. I left while still believing. Sort of. I think the term is: Walk-Away Believer.

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Please take note !!!

  by mouthy in

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  2. friends

  i get quite a few pms,but they wont open right away i have to keep trying .

  for about 10 to 20 times & then it opens.is anyone else having this trouble?.

  or is it because i am dummy??

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  AudeSapere

  Been tought for me, too, lately. I refresh the page and it seems to work for me - that up-and-down arrows at the top of the browser.

  Didn't know about using F5, but will try it)