Posts by AudeSapere

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Light a Candle for Oompa

by BabaYaga in

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there is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.

i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.

(we love and miss you, oompa.).

I would love for you to know my Oompa.... (from one of his closest friends)

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AudeSapere

Thank you sharing this beautiful and personal relational aspect with us.

So sorry for the void left in your family's heart. He clearly had a place there.

-Aude.

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I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

by MC RubberMallet in

some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

but even then i did not give many details about myself.

i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

AudeSapere

Really enjoyed this intro to your story. It brought back some fond memories of my own from when I was a happy, seemingly well-adjusted JW. Thank you for that.

Looking forward to the next installment.

And, if you are so-inclined, I'm curious about your previous alias here on JWN. PM me?

-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Widsom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)

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Light a Candle for Oompa

by BabaYaga in

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there is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.

i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.

(we love and miss you, oompa.).

AudeSapere

Very nice. I lit one.

EASY to do: Click on Baba's link for the group. Click on a candle without a flame. Follow the instructions.

-Aude.

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SAD news about OOMPA......

by redredrose in

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our friend, oompa, has passed away.

just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

AudeSapere

JW Gone Bad wrote: Please, anyone know OOMPA’s age?

According to his Facebook page, he was born in 1961. That would make him 51.

-Aude.

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SAD news about OOMPA......

by redredrose in

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our friend, oompa, has passed away.

just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

AudeSapere

Terribly sad news.

RIP, Oompa. RIP, Eric.

-Aude.

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Why was this congregation disolved - Sunflower Cong. of Santa Ana CA

by loosie in

i went to this congregation from 1969 to 1979. in 1979 it was dissolved and everyone was assigned to two new congregations.

i was only 10 yrs old, so nobody told me why.

but isnt it ususual for the sunflower name not to be carried over but two new ones to be made.

AudeSapere

OODAD wrote: I think Tim Bivins would know but I doubt he'd ever say.

I vaguely remember the name but he was not in that congregation in the 80's. Possibly was in the Circuit but not that cong.

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Why was this congregation disolved - Sunflower Cong. of Santa Ana CA

by loosie in

i went to this congregation from 1969 to 1979. in 1979 it was dissolved and everyone was assigned to two new congregations.

i was only 10 yrs old, so nobody told me why.

but isnt it ususual for the sunflower name not to be carried over but two new ones to be made.

AudeSapere

Don't know the answer to your question but, in the early 80's, the 'Westlake Village Congregation' became the 'Conejo Hills Congregation'. In hindsight, I wonder if it had to do with property ownership. AFAIK, the property for this hall was donated by a former member.

Loosie - hope you don't mind if I piggyback this inquiry onto yours. I would have almost the same question as you. Why would they change the names?

-Aude.

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My new worries about my mom-Suicide?

by JWdaughter in

i love my jw mom.

we have had issues and struggles, but she loves me, i love her and we tolerate a lot of things we differ about because of that love.. you may remember my dad died a little over 11 years ago, and my mom took to a lot of drinking and she was very depressed.

i thought she would just die of despair or drink herself dead or drive drunk.. she has calmed down on the depression and i i know she still drinks too much, but i think it is a little more ocntained.

AudeSapere

Regarding the lung biopsy... These types of biopsies are done for all sorts of reasons. (And there might even be different approaches.)

Since your mom is consenting so *some* treatment, maybe you can try to talk her thru her reasons for refusing this particular DIAGNOSTIC tool. Why allow MRI's, scans for diagnosis and agree to chemo and radiation but NOT a lung biopsy?

I had lung biopsy back in 1998. It was done as out-patient using a lavage process. Pretty Easy-Peasy. For all the scans, preps, proceedures, and treatment I had with my cancer, the lung biopsy was *by far* the easiest.

Your mom may be making decisions based on faulty understanding and expectations. I'm going thru this with my dad. In his mind, he builds up the simplist of procedures into future catastrophic events.

With my mom, she was hospitalized a few years ago. She consented to treatment in the hospital but not any tubes or devices hooked up to her. I don't know if my siblings ever convinced her that the IV tube for fluids was simply for that: fluids. In her mind, she equated IV Fluids with 'Life-Support.' In a way, she was right. But not in the typical way the term 'Life Support' is used in common medical terminology.

I think the problem lies in the older generations view of hospitals, medicine and aging in general. They remember how it was back in the 40's and 50's. Also, the WT does them no favors when it comes to trusting/distrusting non-jws, doctors (ie: blood transfusions), and technology.

-Aude.

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My new worries about my mom-Suicide?

by JWdaughter in

i love my jw mom.

we have had issues and struggles, but she loves me, i love her and we tolerate a lot of things we differ about because of that love.. you may remember my dad died a little over 11 years ago, and my mom took to a lot of drinking and she was very depressed.

i thought she would just die of despair or drink herself dead or drive drunk.. she has calmed down on the depression and i i know she still drinks too much, but i think it is a little more ocntained.

AudeSapere

JWDaughter - Sorry for the struggles with your mom and, Boy! do I relate to much of this. There are so many of us with aging parents that are facing these difficult scenarios. For ex-JWs, I think it's even more complicated.

You wrote: I don't know what to think I don't even know how JWs view this-I forget! Seems dead before armageddon, you get another chance, right? Or does suicide screw you?

Last I heard/understood, JWs view suicide as 'self-murder', thus likely disqualifying one for resurrection. But, really, only Jehovah knows for sure.

I agree with FoundSheep - Have this conversation with your mom and be direct and blunt. Not emotional, not judgemental. Just an open and honest conversation. Maybe also make arrangements to meet with one or more of her doctors yourself (with mom) so you can ask the tough questions yourself and get a more realistic understanding of her condition.

Please keep us posted. Your updates are likely to help others as much as yourself.

-Aude.