Posts by AudeSapere

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

AudeSapere

His ex wrote: As JWs we live in prison, and the worst inmates are those who know TTATT and cant get out

Bullshit.

You are taking the arrogant, lazy route. You are not in prison. You are not an inmate. You are a psychopath who is abusing the 'flock'. You do not want to make the effort to leave and get a job that pays enough for you to support yourself. Millions and millions support themselves. I am one of them.

You *can* get out. Anybody can. There are consequences, but that is true with any decision we make.

You *choose* to stay. And worse, you choose to stay and add to the burden of those who feel they have a 'home' in the org. How dare you.

You are not excellent. You are an ass.

-Aude.

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

AudeSapere

His ex wrote: I am aware that no one contemplates suicide after public reprove

Seriously? You know for a fact that no one ever contemplates suicide after public reprove???

You are a self-deluded, pompous sociopath.

I was never publicly- (or privately-) reproved. Yet I was suicidal for the last 4 years of my being a witness.

How dare you suppose to know what people's true emotions are. You are acting recklessly. Your little game will destroy people, their families and their lives.

Still, you think it is all just grand fun.

-Aude.

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Is There Anything About The Witnesses That You Like?

by minimus in

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anything??

?.

AudeSapere

The shoes. I had so many, many really cute shoes. Mostly 4-inch heals.

-Aude.

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My first missed memorial.

by stillwondering in

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AudeSapere

It's tough. I don't really have anything to say other than I 'get' it. And I think most of us do.

I'm in same situation with my sister. But, for now, being 'in' works for her. I'm happy that she is happy. I just wish we could both be happy *and* talk freely to each other. Sadly, it cannot work that way when one of us is still in a cult.

I remember my first few missed memorials. I had mixed feelings. I don't miss the memorial itself at all. But I do miss the big parties that we (my family) used to have afterwards. I really, really enjoyed those. They were among some of my best JW memories.

No regrets, though, for me leaving it behind. I am much happier everyday.

-Aude.

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My 45 Minute Conversation With JWs Today

by cofty in

as i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.

ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.

i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.

AudeSapere

marked

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

AudeSapere

Hi There, HeyThere!

Welcome to JWN. I you have not looked around much yet, you should soon see that this is a good resource and support place for you. Most of us 'get' what you are going through.

Sorry to hear not just about your pending surgery, but the pressure to quickly get in step and follow the deadly JW blood policies.

Sounds like you have good repoire with your doc(s) and have thoughtfully thought thru the faulty blood doctrines and made your own decision about about your treatment.

Since you already know there may be an 'issue' regarding consent for blood, please do a big favor for your primary care physician, surgeon, and anesthesiologist (if possible), and let them know there may dissent from your husband and his 'clergy'. Give them the opportunity to hear from your own mouth what you will (and/or will not) accept. Letting them know of the conflict ahead of time is the kind thing to do. Trust me. And if you wait until they are prepping you for surgery, it is possible that they will already have administered narcotics or other meds. Also being minutes away from surgery, they all have other things they are preparring for.

Tell them *now* what your wishes are.

All the best for a fully and swift recovery.

-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself.)

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Creative ways of counting field service time

by 4thgen in

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there was a sister in my congregation that signed up to aux pioneer one month to put in 60 hours.

we couldn't figure out why she was never at the arrangements, but yet she said she got in her time early in the month.

we found out later that we wrote a letter that took her an hour.

AudeSapere

My mom had a few creative ideas.

Travelling by plane - Have a Watchtower and an Awake! back-to-back sticking up out of her purse and a bible or magazine in her lap to read.

Travelling by car - Set a Watchtower magazine on one side of the rear window and an Awake magazine on the other side. Mabye a bible and/or Truth (or Life Forever) Book in the middle.

Either way, there was no denying that she was Advertising, Advertising, Advertising the King and his Kingdom WTS puplications.

I can't remember if we split the hours amongst us when travelling by car. It was mom and 4 kids. I am sure I claimed a few for myself.

I wonder if she still uses these tactics? It sure was easy hours. Certainly no less effective than the literature carts that I've heard of lately.

-Aude.

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Ventura County CA Obituary Notice: R0BERT HUTER

by RayPublisher in

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ventura county ca obituary notice: r0bert huter .

[i am posting this on behalf of a poster who wishes to remain anonymous...] .

this is an unofficial notice that r0bert 'bob' huter died suddenly last week.

AudeSapere

Sad to hear this news. He lived a full and busy life - right to the end. I remember that he was always kind, attentive and approachable.

And I remember when Nancy went missing. 19months of non-closure. We looked everywhere. Even went door-to-door just looking for anyone who knew or saw anything that might help us find her.

RIP, Bob. Thank you for your kindness.

-Aude.

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Strong, odd and weird opinions on my brothers anniversary

by usualusername in

today my brother a non witness gave me a phone call.. .

he spoke about this, that and the other.

he then said that my oldest brother (an elder) was having his 25th wedding anniversary.

AudeSapere

Giordano wrote: ... his son was told by an Elder that he'd have to ask his father to leave...his son refused so the Elder told his Dad he could not eat with them.

Such arrogance on the part of the elder. If said elder was offended, said elder should have left the event himself.

Sheesh~!

Tough call on this one. I tend to agree with Ouiblette's first suggestion to be the most gracious one. But... Other people make a good point. A second- or third-hand invite, is not an invite.

Maybe do something fun to celebrate your own life. Something fun and out-of-the-ordinary with your girlfriend.

-Aude.

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Told my JW friend it's a cult

by Xanthippe in

so i said i would write about the 2014 convention program that you guys kindly posted here, to the jw friend who contacted me out of the blue after over 20 years since we d'ad.

sorry if you find this repetitive if you have already read my story.

this friend does not know anything about how my family shun me and i thought it is relevant in the light of the convention symposium talk about putting family in second place.

AudeSapere

xanthippe wrote: Well, my friend, I expect I shall not hear from you again now that you know I am never coming back. I have to say I was surprised when you started writing after such a long time. Be sure I know your motives are good and you want to save me from this wicked world to live in the New System. I worry about you in the same way, getting worn out and poorly working hard for something that isn’t true.

Simple. Respectful. Honest. Direct.

Perfect. I love it.

Thank you for sharing this.

-Aude.