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  Getting ready to visit the San Diego area......Any suggestions?

  by drewcoul in

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  my son is getting ready to move to hawaii.

  we are driving from indianapolis to san diego next week so that they can ship his car from the west coast and save about a thousand dollars versus shipping it from here.

  i am only going to be there for a few days, thursday through sunday and would like some suggestions of what to do while i'm there.

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  AudeSapere

  I'm about 3 or 4 hours away and have to work Friday and Saturday next week. Otherwise, I'd love to get a drink with you two.

  What time are you leaving on Sunday (Sept 20)?
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  Conditioned to fail

  by Jordandemm in

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  just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

  it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

  but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

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  AudeSapere

  I just remembered another avenue for (re-)building social circles...

  #6. Get in contact with non-jw family members and former school classmates. Even the ones you previously snubbed. Maybe ESPECIALLY those people. If local, invite them 1-by-1 to coffee and apologize to them. Tell them you want to get to know them better. Maybe even make a list - the longer, the better - and just start reaching out to them. Their responses might surprise you. Hopefully for the good~!!

  IMPORTANT: Remember that if you are trying to fade from JWs, use extreme caution on Facebook and other social media.
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  The new 'classes' jehovahs-witness.net has created. Which one are you?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over time a number of different 'classes' of members have arisen on this forum.

  1] apple watch watchers - this group takes a great interest in watches worn by members of the governing body.

  2] cult escape consultants - one who freely offers advise on how to flee from a cult - mainly the wt society.

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  I think two categories apply to me: Kids who want of the org; People of all ages looking to get on with their lives.

  I don't care about doctrine whatsoever.

  -Aude.
  
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  Conditioned to fail

  by Jordandemm in

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  just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

  it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

  but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

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  AudeSapere

  Londo wrote: This is likely the number #1 problem for former JWs.

  I could not agree more! This is a tough one, but not insurmountable.

  Five things that helped me (re-)build my little social circles:

  #1. I took classes at local community college. Some of the classes required working in small groups. We would meet at local coffee shops and chat before and during our prep work.

  #2. I moved out of territory. This kept me a little out-of-mind for my congregation and also a few neighbors were kind to me. I checked back with those people and 28 years later, I'm still friends with a couple of them.

  #3. I met up with other ex-JWs in a 100+-mile radius of my home. This was GREAT benefit to me and was serious priority for about 3 years. If they were meeting, I did whatever I could to be there. I even planned a few meet-ups myself. It got me comfortable with talking about 'normal' things with semi-normal (haha!) people. That way I didn't bristle when subjects came up in conversation that NEVER came up when I was JW or with JWs.

  #4. I joined co-workers for lunch and other social activities. Sometimes even just asking if I could join them (like if I heard people planning on going out for drink after work or when I heard a group planning to go skydiving~!!).

  #5. I took up a new hobby and joined a local club to support my development of that hobby. For me, it was learning to ride a motorcycle at age 45. I met many new people and had such interesting new experiences. I think it made me more interesting and gave me something current - and FUN~! - to talk about when I met new people, too.

  My #1 mistake...?? Feeling like I had to divulge my JW connection. Sometimes I used this as an explanation as to why I felt out-of-place. People tend to care, but not for the reasons we ex-JWs might think they care. You really don't have to explain yourself. Honest. You don't. Tell your sad tale to new friends AFTER they get to know you a bit. Like maybe weeks or months later, if at all. I said too much, too soon, too often and it killed an otherwise good vibe with new acquaintances.

  *IF* you feel comfortable enough, maybe share with us your general age & situation (ie: teenager, unemployed, living at home) and your general location (ie: Northeast United States; Southern California; etc.). You might responses (and invites!) more-tailored to your needs.

  All the best~! And welcome to JWN! It's nice to have you join us and introduce yourself with a GREAT first post. Extremely important topic that needs to be discussed much more often.

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  looking for a thread about 1006= elders knew=.......

  by carla in

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  i have been searching the better part of this morning to find the thread in which somebody commented on 1006 known pedophiles which equals 3 elders at each jc and the totals on how many elders did not report to police (3000?

  ) and also how many known victims in australia.

  i think they also broke it down to how many victims that would average each week/month for the last 60 + years.

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  AudeSapere

  Mad Irishman wrote: To set things a little clearer. The national average in the U.S. for children who are molested is 26%. This comes from the CDC.
  Using the commission's numbers of 1,006 reported cases of kids who were molested that comes out to 0.6 percent. So let's say we triple that for all the cases not reported and you would come out to 1.8 percent of Witness kids who were molested.

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  I am not convinced that you are comparing like-for-like.

  You state that the National Average for *US* children who are molested is 26%. [That would be about 1 in every 4 children. But the year(s) referenced is not provided. And this statistic is for The United States.]

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  The commissions number of 1006 reported cases of kids who were molested that comes out to 0.6 percent...

  My question is: .06 percent of WHAT? All Australian children?? Or just the number of children within the JW community. Whichever answer, what is the total # of children being referenced? That will help give us the proper percentage number. And again, the time references for the # of children should align with the time reference for the documented-yet-unreported-to-government-authorities claims that now been disclosed.

  Please clarify.
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  Why is my Uncle (JW PO-COBE) and Aunt Cruella suing my parents and grandparents?

  by ReligionOfHatred in

  1. watchtower
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  i heard this is a website where you can ask fellow jehovah's witnesses questions that websites like jw friends will not allow you to post because they don't allow you to speak ill of any elder.

  my aunt cruella de ville and uncle jaundice sent my grandpa (he's got dementia and grandma has cancer) a letter saying their going to force grandma and gramps in to selling the land my grandmother located back in the late 1970s, grandma is very smart and saw the potential for their land, she was very gifted seeing things others did not see.

  in the 1980s my grandparents went to oregon to check on their daughter who was pregnant, they were appalled by the living conditions cruella was living and she was having to work even though she was heavy with child.. all of this started when my dad ran in to a elder at the grocery store and this elder told my dad that "the reason cruella and jaundice are shunning your inlaws is because their apostates and therefore have the right to shun them.

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  AudeSapere

  RoH wrote: One area that use to bug me was my friends were getting 1099'ed by JW Contractors because the JWs did not want to pay Social Security payroll tax or Worker's Compensation so they paid these employees $10.00 telling them "I am paying you $1.00 above Minimum Wage, so you cover your WC and payroll tax!"

  If in California, you can call EDD (Employment Development Department) and report this illegal practice. You do not have to be the one who was employed. If you know of this practice, you can report the offending 'employer'.

  I think the same may be true in other states as well.
  
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  Why is my Uncle (JW PO-COBE) and Aunt Cruella suing my parents and grandparents?

  by ReligionOfHatred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard this is a website where you can ask fellow jehovah's witnesses questions that websites like jw friends will not allow you to post because they don't allow you to speak ill of any elder.

  my aunt cruella de ville and uncle jaundice sent my grandpa (he's got dementia and grandma has cancer) a letter saying their going to force grandma and gramps in to selling the land my grandmother located back in the late 1970s, grandma is very smart and saw the potential for their land, she was very gifted seeing things others did not see.

  in the 1980s my grandparents went to oregon to check on their daughter who was pregnant, they were appalled by the living conditions cruella was living and she was having to work even though she was heavy with child.. all of this started when my dad ran in to a elder at the grocery store and this elder told my dad that "the reason cruella and jaundice are shunning your inlaws is because their apostates and therefore have the right to shun them.

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  AudeSapere

  Religion of Hatred wrote: Jehovah's Organization will punish people who lie to the Government, right?

  I have never, EVER known this to happen. The org usually looks the other way or denies having right to get involved.
  
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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

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  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  AudeSapere

  The OP is a major fail, based on when he later tells us he was trying to convey.

  Trying to be clever, you failed in basic communication.
  
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  Helen Keller is not a hero

  by StopTheTears in

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  few realize just how wicked some of the most revered people in history were.

  helen keeler (1880 to 1968) was a wolf in sheep's clothing, no hero.

  keller was a communist.

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  AudeSapere

  The OP has seems to have the same writing flair as Six Screens. Just with a different object of derision.
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  Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

  by C0ntr013r in

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  i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

  the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

  the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

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  AudeSapere

  Here are the full lyrics...

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  WOULD JESUS WEAR A ROLEX

  (Margaret Archer / Chet Atkins)

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  Performed by Ray Stevens - 1987

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  Woke up this mornin' turned on my TV set

  There in livin' color was somethin' I can't forget

  This man was preachin' at me.. yeah.. layin' on the charm

  Asking me for 20 with 10,000 on his arm

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  He wore designer clothing and a big smile on his face

  Selling me salvation while they sang Amazing Grace

  Asking me for money when he had all the signs of weath

  Almost wrote a check out.. yeah.. but then I asked myself…

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  Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car

  Would His wife wear furs and diamonds, would His dressing room have a star

  If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know
  

  Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

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  Would Jesus be political if he came back to earth

  Have his second home in Palm Springs.. yeah.. but try to hide his worth

  Take money from those poor folks when He comes back again

  And admit He's talked to all those preachers who said they'd been-a talking to Him

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  Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car

  Would His wife wear furs and diamonds, would His dressing room have a star

  If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know

  Could ya tell me -

  Would Jesus wear a rolex

  Would Jesus wear a rolex

  Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

  Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

  [http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/w/wouldjesusweararolex.shtml]