Just another specific example of why the JW organization is dangerous for children.
AudeSapere
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Connect the dots: Cut the baby in half
by OrphanCrow in*thanks to bubba on reddit for the heads up this uplifting children's activity.
what is the purpose of this activity?
what is the message?
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Question is there any historical data on a women killing her entire
by poopie infamily including dog and then herself?.
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AudeSapere
Giordano quoted: The "civil reputable" killer, on the other hand, is motivated by a perverse form of altruism. "His entire identity is in his family," says Richard Gelles, dean of the School of Social Policy and Practice at the University of Pennsylvania and an authority on domestic violence. The father (or mother) is almost always considering suicide as the only escape from some sort of financial crisis. Murdering their family members, then, becomes a way of rescuing them from the hardship and shame of bankruptcy and suicide.
Interesting and insightful. Thank you.
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Question is there any historical data on a women killing her entire
by poopie infamily including dog and then herself?.
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AudeSapere
Poopie - I don't really understand what you are asking for.
My first thought is this recent event that occurred in Michigan last week: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5404467/Woman-killed-husband-2-adult-kids-killing-herself.html
The article says that "Since their deaths, friends revealed that the family left the Jehovah's Witnesses five years ago, and had been subsequently shunned by their former community. The friends speculated that the isolation from the shunning may have been what caused Lauren to snap and kill her loved ones."
From this article, I just learned that her children were adults in the 20's.
Is this what you are requesting?
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Is My Wife Awakening?
by My Name is of No Consequence inevery now and then, my wife will talk about how things are not making sense within the org.
i usually just dismiss it as her playing mind games with me.
for example, she would ask why there are so many branches being closed or why so many congregations are being merged.
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MNIONC wrote: ... she started talking about how former Bethelites are coming back disgruntled and how pioneers are dismayed because no one is helping them within the congregation.
How does she know about this and the other issues you cited?
That specific list is so easily found on xjw discussion sites, not likely discussed in the car while on way to territory for field service.
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Questions to be answered/asked by JW Bible students
by The Fall Guy inpotential recruits of the cult known as jehovah's witnesses/wtbts will eventually be asked the following two questions as they hand over every aspect and control of their lives to the org;.
on the basis of the sacrifice of jesus christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to jehovah to do his will?.
do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directed organization?.
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AudeSapere
stuckinarut2 wrote: Go to the JWdotORG site, and in the search field type "data protection policy" and read the train wreck of an excuse of a policy!
Thank you for the suggestion. Here is a quote from the written Data Collection Policy at jw.org:
4. The organization has an interest in permanently maintaining data regarding an individual’s status as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Deleting such information would unduly infringe on the organization’s religious beliefs and practices. (Bold, Italics and Underlining by Aude)
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AudeSapere
Happy Birthday, Stan!
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Haven't been on for a long time
by avishai ini came to see if any of the old faces are here, thank you so much, you've helped me through so much.
so many of you are responsible for helping me to learn to be kind.
i love you guys, stay strong stay kind.
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AudeSapere
I remember you. Always nice to get a good update. Glad you are doing well.
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What happened to my account?
by Jacobii ini tried logging in the other day, but my previous account (jacobi) was disabled?!
i wonder what the problem is.
i use an anonymizer program and i wonder if that might have triggered something?
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AudeSapere
I don't have an answer to your question but Simon is probably the only one who can help you. He is a pretty busy guy and does not monitor every thread so better if you put this question in the category that he is *most* likely to see it.
I suggest that you ask the same question again by starting a new thread but put in the category marked 'Technical Assistance'.
Hope that helps just a little.
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Jolene Chu and James Pelechia?
by Gorbatchov in20 years ago there was some change at the jw bastion.
some windows were opened when the internet became availble.
jolene chu and james pelechia did historical research for watchtower and published about it.
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AudeSapere
I'm interested, too.
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Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018
by darkspilver injehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
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AudeSapere
Here is the article from the link in the OP:
Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case
Victim filed lawsuit six (6) years agoA lawsuit is now settled between a former victim of sexual abuse and Jehovah's Witnesses. According to the court's website, the case is under a "conditional settlement." The terms and conditions of the settlement are not public.
José Lopez filed the lawsuit back in 2012, nearly 20 years after church elder Gonzalo Campos molested him and several other young children who were members of the Linda Vista congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
As reported by the Reader, Campos, who fled to Mexico to escape criminal charges, admitted to committing the acts to Lopez’s and another victim's attorney, Devin Storey, while giving testimony in one of the cases.
“I touched him in his private parts,” Campos testified.
Attorney Storey: “Did you touch his penis?”
Campos: “Yes.”
Storey: “Did you penetrate him?”
Campos: “Yes. Yes.”
Storey: “How many times?”
Campos: “More than once. I don’t know.”
In 2009, five other alleged victims sued the Watchtower and Bible and Tract Society of New York, the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, over the molestation by Campos and the Watchtower's refusal to act.
That case settled for an undisclosed amount in 2012, the same year that Lopez filed his lawsuit and a year before another victim, Osbaldo Padron, filed his.
Then, in 2015, a state court judge ruled that the Watchtower had failed to cooperate with discovery in the Lopez case. The judge awarded a $13.5 million judgment in favor of Lopez.
The Watchtower later appealed the decision and managed to get the decision rescinded and promised to produce the requested documents.
Meanwhile, a fight over documents was also occurring in Padron's case, the one filed shortly after Lopez’s lawsuit.
At issue was Watchtower’s refusal to turn over a letter from headquarters that asked for the names of alleged sexual abusers in the church.
But at the same time other documents had been released by the Linda Vista congregation, which showed the congregation and headquarters were aware that Campos had sexually assaulted young boys and a girl but still considered him eligible to return to the congregation.
“In our meeting with him he said he was very repentant for what he did,” wrote an elder at Linda Vista's congregation to Watchtower headquarters in New York in 1999.
“He stated that he wanted to return to Jehovah. He is willing to face the victims and ask their forgiveness. He now wants to obey Jehovah. Before, when he would speak to people on the platform he would not meditate on what he was doing. Although he needed to confess, he felt shameful and had fear of mankind. He would deceive himself thinking that he could continue serving as an elder. Now he realized that he could not change without help. Ever since his expulsion he has not abused anyone. He has read articles of the publications regarding his sin. He says he does not see or read pornographic information. He stated that ever since expulsion he has worked on having a relationship with Jehovah and the expulsion has served to strengthen him spiritually. He does not miss meetings, and he even takes notes of the program. He also said that he is willing to continue accepting Jehovah’s discipline.”
While the two sides continued to fight over discovery in the Lopez case, another judge issued sanctions against the Watchtower for refusing to turn over documents in the Padron case.
The Watchtower also appealed that decision as well.
As covered by the Reader, in November a state appellate court rejected the appeal, sending the case back to state court and keeping the $4000-per-day sanctions in place.
Meanwhile, as the Padron case was heading back to state court, attorneys for Lopez and Watchtower agreed to settle the Lopez case.
Lopez’s attorney, Irwin Zalkin, did not respond to a request for comment prior to publication of this article.
There is no word yet whether Padron's case has also been settled. A hearing is scheduled for next month.