Posts by CalebInFloroda

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New Catholic tribunal formed

by OrphanCrow in

this happened in the month prior to the jws giving testimony for the royal commission - the article was published june 10, 2015. it is interesting to note that this catholic tribunal is for addressing those priests who cover up child abuse.

pope francis makes catholic bishops who cover up for paedophile priests accountable for first time with new tribunal system.

pope francis has taken a major step towards stamping out paedophilia in the catholic church, approving a new system of tribunals designed to make bishops accountable for the priests under them.the new and unprecedented vatican legal mechanism will hear the cases against bishops accused of covering up paedophile priests who abuse children on their watch.the church has previously faced criticism for failing to hold those in higher positions accountable for what goes on in their bishoprics.the vatican said pope francis was presented with the tribunal proposals by cardinal sean omalley, who he appointed as head of a new sex abuse advisory commission in december 2013.francis and his cardinal advisers approved the plans and allocated funding for full-time personnel to staff the new office.the vatican spokesman, rev federico lombardi, said this means there is now a specific process by which the vatican can deal with bishops who are negligent in handling cases of abuse in their territories.canon law already does provide sanctions for bishops who are negligent in their duties, but the vatican has never been known to mete out punishment for a bishop who covered up for an abuser.previously, the closest francis had come was in april, when he accepted the resignation of a us bishop found to have failed to report a suspected child abuser.

CalebInFloroda

@Vidiot

You are correct.

The belief that one's religion is the "one true faith" is called "triumphalism," and it is now forbidden in the Roman Catholic Church as is proselytism, which is evangelizing by employing techniques that compares "our true religion" with "your false religion."

The Roman Catholic Church, since Vatican II and especially since the reigns of St. Pope John Paul the Great and now Pope Francis teaches that G-d is not limited by denominational lines or any particular means in G-d's distribution of "truth," which the RCC refers to as "the economy of salvation."

This change in doctrine includes the view that people can fulfill G-d's purpose in ways not understood by the Church, and that the Church relies on the fact that the covenant between G-d and the Jews is still intact (which is also why attempts to convert the Jews is a big "no-no" now in Catholic circles).

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NU LIGHT JWs not only spokespersons for GAWD so says Governing Body Jackson

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuwt4flyl-k .

CalebInFloroda

That was my jaw-dropping moment for me, Heaven. Watching him and hearing him say that made me think what would have happened to me if I was still a JW and was going around saying the same kind of things:

"It's presumptuous to think that Jehovah only speaks through the Governing Body or the Organization, simply presumptuous!"

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NU LIGHT JWs not only spokespersons for GAWD so says Governing Body Jackson

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuwt4flyl-k .

CalebInFloroda

Good thing to point out, Blondie.

In Judaism a prophet is defined as someone who was sent or inspired by G-d to make a public proclamation (the Hebrew word for such a proclamation is an "oracle of the Lord").

The proclamation had to be national or public and delivered to the children of Israel. Only rarely, if ever, did a prophet ever tell of a future event. Prophets acted as spokespersons or teaching leaders of Israel. Out of the over 50 prophets that existed throughout Judaism's history, 7 were women.

Daniel, however, is not one of these prophets. He received visions or wrote of the visions given to others and dealt mainly with "foretelling the future." Visions were not public declarations and had that "future" element rare to prophetic oracles. Prophets had public messages for the Jews, while many visions in Daniel's time were often privately given to heathen Gentiles. That is why Daniel's book is found not in the "Prophets" section of the Tanakh but in the "Writings" section.

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Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

by Diogenesister in

guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

!how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

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CalebInFloroda

@InquiryMan

That's not he same thing as what Jackson stated. Jackson stated that the JW religion as a whole did not believe in a literal interpretation of the Proverbs "rod," i.e., that corporal punishment was allowed. If crossing a national border is all it takes to allow an interpretation or application to change, then it isn't a doctrine.

For instance: it's legal to purchase and smoke or otherwise use marijuana recreationally in various countries and states but prohibited in others.

If JWs are against the use of marijuana then this doesn't mean they allow their members to use it in those states and countries where people are free to do so. If the JWs are against its use, then that would mean JWs don't use it even in areas where they are free to do so.

JWs freely spank and otherwise physically punish their children in the United States, and the literature as published in the United States reflects this. This means that the JW religion as a whole is not against corporeal punishment because JWs can and freely choose to do it where and when they can if they so choose. If they are in a state or country where it is forbidden, then they don't due to the law. Yet should they cross the border, then they are free to do so since it is not against JW doctrine.

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Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

by Diogenesister in

guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

!how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

!

CalebInFloroda

You can also tell how a religion feels about women depending on the Bible translation they use in reference to Judges 4.4.

Here Deborah is referred to as a NABI in Hebrew, but in the feminine. The reason? It is merely Hebrew syntax convention, requiring a feminized suffix since the word is used in reference to Deborah.

Modern translations understand this and translate this word as "prophet" and not "prophetess." There was no difference between the type of "prophet" Deborah was because she had, what Mr. Jackson and the other members of the Governing Body would probably call "woman parts."

On the contrary, Deborah and Miriam were full-fledged "prophets," just as much as Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel.

Judaism recognizes 7 female prophets: Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Abigail, Huldah, and Esther.

It should be interesting to know that Daniel is not considered to be a prophet among Jews, nor is his book in the "Prophets" section of the Hebrew Bible. Daniel, relied heavily upon as a prophet by JWs, was never sent with public pronouncements or oracles to Israel--the requisite for being considered a prophet of G-d by Jews. Daniel, instead, dealt with dreams given to private individuals and composed them in such a manner as to teach lessons of hope regarding redemption from the Seleucid oppression.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

CalebInFloroda

Someone on another thread told me they were looking for a list of women who ruled and taught in Israel?

Along with Judge Deborah of Judges 4, let us not forget that Miriam served as a prophet alongside her brother Moses.

And it was a woman whom G-d used to first proclaim that any writing of the Jews was Scripture, and that was the prophet Huldah spoken of in 2 Kings 22 and 2 Chronicles 34.

And who can forget Esther who acted as savior of my people, and who we celebrate every year at Purim?

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Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

by Diogenesister in

guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

!how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

!

CalebInFloroda

And as for women's role in judging and teaching and leading Israel, let us not forget that Miriam served as a prophet alongside her brother Moses.

And it was a woman whom G-d used to first proclaim that any writing of the Jews was Scripture, and that was the prophet Huldah spoken of in 2 Kings 22 and 2 Chronicles 34.

And who can forget Esther who acted as savior of my people, and who we celebrate every year at Purim?

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Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

by Diogenesister in

guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

!how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

!

CalebInFloroda

It was at the point in which Jackson was asked about corporal punishment, when he was led backwards using the NWT to see the related Scriptures used in the cross-references therein.

The "rod of discipline" of Proverbs 22.15 was being discussed, and Jackson said that it was mainly being interpreted today as educational discipline.

He was directly asked if the ancient writers of this text had a different view, and Jackson tried to skirt the issue, repeating again that the JWs now hold an interpretation that does not apply it literally.

He was then asked point blank if Jehovah's Witnesses believing and practice corporal punishment in regards to the discipline of their children, and Jackson said that they were against corporal punishment of children.

That, of course, is a lie.

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Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

by Diogenesister in

guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

!how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

!

CalebInFloroda

Judges chapter 4 and the history of my people are clear that a woman, Deborah, was once a judge of Israel.

Jackson also stated that the JW don't allow parents to spank their children, which I know is not true. So it's no surprise that he will say anything that isn't accurate to make himself and the Witnesses look good.

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Yahweh's wonderful creation

by fulltimestudent in

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when i thought of myself as a christian witness of yahweh attempting to be a footstep follower of jesus, psalm 104 was one of my favourites.

if i was ever in some wonderful scenic area, psalm 104 would jump into my mind, and i'd start to praise yahweh and jesus.. but if something horrible came to mind as in the following video, i'd always think of the favourite christian escape clause, it's all because of adam's sin.

but any connection between natural animal savagery and adam's sin is never logically made in the bible.. interestingly, the supposedly inspired psalm 104 (nwt-the grey one i guess) itself says that:.

CalebInFloroda

This is why I am happy to be a Jew.

We read our Scripture texts in full, not just taking out the parts that talk about where people fail.

It is because of our ancient theology that all humans are not infected with Original Sin that a distant cousin of mine, Anne Frank wrote: "Despite everything, I believe that people are really good at heart."

You've demonstrated here, Perry, that you don't think that way.

I would rather side with Anne than you and your twisted interpretations any day.