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Just got a visit from elders

by TweetieBird in

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well, it's sunday morning and i'm sitting here posting on this board when i hear 2 car doors slam.

i peek out the window and see 2 elders walking up to the door.

since i'm still in my jammies, i told my husband to go get the door while i snuck into the bedroom.

To Danni: ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS

by You Know in

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q 1: where does the bible say god's name is jehovah?

in all probability, the bible that you have does not have the name jehovah in it, anywhere.

we too have a fraternity, a brotherhood, gods family is what we are, and if anyone dishonors the congregation by conduct unbecoming a minister of god, shunning, or disfellowshipping as we call it, is gods means to deal with such ones.. q 7: how can a person isolate themselves if you chose to knock on peoples doors outside your religion?

Danni

You Know

From the standpoint of a Baptist such a person would be a back-slider or an apostate. From our perspective, it is not possible to be an apostate unless you originally were in the truth. We don't believe Baptists know the truth about God, so from God's standpoint, it's not possible for them to become apostates until first they know the truth. Jesus referred to Satan as one who "did not stand fast in the truth." Meaning basically that the Devil was an apostate angel---the first of many such---because he didn't stay in the truth. But, the point is that he was originally in the truth, as we say.

I am not understanding the word "the truth" I sense you all are talking as if the word has a speacial meaning to it when it comes to Jehovah's Witnesses.

Let me say this before I comment on your others explanations.

I don't know who you are but, you certanialy have a way with words and explaning things. I am not in any fashion going to say what you are saying is wrong because I don't know god I guess the way everyone here does. You and the one named "Alanf" appear to be very educated men, yet the two of you are butting heads. This is normally seen between Phd's. Are you by any chance a religious professor, an expert in religion or something.? Not to sound tacky but I have never in my whole life gone this deep into religion before I have an odd strange feeling that i am about to learn things i would better off not knowing. Maybe I should back off and take the advice of the others and leave this man to himself. I feel if i go to much deeper things are going to change and i am not sure that is what i want..

refiners fire The supreme creator Gods are getting real tired of him (small h)they told me so in their last transmission to me.
Theyre coming to put him back in his little sub commander position real soon

Sorry Refiners fire i didn't understand that.

You know the way you explained everything concerning cops and those in the churches I suppose I can understand that. We do not want bad cops in the mix with as they will make all good cops look bad. FLOWER yesterday was an example of that. She didn't judge us all but her point was made.

Tell me; are you saying Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones with god's favor? if yes; why would he chose them and not others. There's good in all religions. Just as you have said there are good Jehovah's Witnesses and bad ones, good cops and bad ones. Well what about the rest of the world's religions, Could not the same be said of them?

Thinker: I wrote those points you made in the other thread down but after reading this I don't know if I am going to ask them as I have already said, I think I should back away.

Gambler : LOL LOL LOL , Thanks for the infor on "oral sex"

Oh yeah, i did think of going into the church on my own but, I didn't want him to think i am stalking him. And it would be rude of me to pry into his religious life in that manner.

TJ. I am going to dinner at five do you want the scoop in here or in the mail?

I am printing this information out that was given today by you know. I am so curious now but afriad to know (if that makes sense) but I have to read it for myself in the Bible. I did notice that Alanf made some goood points too but he gave scriptures. You know do you have any more beides the one you gave at the top? I am not going to pretend that I know where in the Bible to find these things I have a bible but never really read it so i would need some help in this. And I am going to look at the definitions on those names.

Thanx

I didn't proof read this please excuse errors in spelling and grammar.

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Will someone answer these questions?

by Danni in

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q 1: where does the bible say god's name is jehovah.. q 2: what's an apostate.

q 3: what is the "evil slave vs good slave" i read this ealier sounds more like a movie in hollywood.. q 4: why would any one want to be a slave.

q 5: why not give a child blood to save their lives.

Danni

flower: (just talking about the ones around here though...i dont know you and i dont prejudge)

I appreciate that. And I know first hand what you are talking when it comes to corruption in our organization. I have seen it. At the same time there are many of us who will report on bad cops. We may not all be good but there are many of us who are. Look at our brothers in blue in NY durning the world trade center terrorist attack. They are perfect examples of good cops.

seven006 Danni,

Just so you can get a little idea of the typical JW way of thinking, Fredhall is a JW.

Take notice of how he posts and you will be able to get a little idea of what we are talking about.

Fredhall
Danni,

Dave is not a JW. So you can see he live a low life.

Let's not fight I don't want to cause fighting between anyone that's not my intentions.

If you did take this relationship further it would mean big trouble for him. If you took it all the way and you wanted to become a JW you would have to kiss your job good-bye.

No we didn't do anything sexual, I am sure that's what you mean. I can respect anyones beliefs about his body. As a matter of fact that's one of the things that I like about him. I don't meet many (if any) men who have this much respect for their bodies it seems to be something we expect from women not men.

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MR.Bowen

by Danni in

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mr.bowen, i just finished reading from your site.

i take it you are a high raking offical in the organization?

it was brave for you to stand up for the "little lambs" who cannot speak for themselves.. i have this question: do you feel like leaving was wise ??

Danni

Thank you I will do just that. Read from the site and educate myself more on these issues.

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Bad news, folks!

by TweetieBird in

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my teenage son approached my husband and me yesterday to inform us that he wants to get baptized at the summer convention.

ugh!.

he hasn't shown an interest in witness things for several months until a cousin from up north came to visit and took him out in service all day.

Danni

What is the big deal about being baptized?

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Introducing myself.

by Danni in

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hello eveyone.

forgive me for just jumping in your threads without giving some information about myself.. my name is danni.

i am a law enforcement officer.

Danni

And I don't want to break your heart, but

LOL don't worry about it you didn't break my heart I like those who don't pull punches with me.

"Wow, that guy is so cool! I'd become a JW just to check him out!" and so she acted really interested. The downer in all this is that he couldn't care less how cool she was, he just wanted her to come to meetings and be able to reach God. He didn't have any interest in her at all.

LOL All that just to be save huh?? haha. Well atleast he did it for god right?? (joking).

Seriously I kind of figured he was not interested in me a while back so cut off our communications . He kept calling me everynight until i agreed to speak with him. He confessed he wanted a realtionship with me. Now after reading your words it just may be the real reason he's come on so strongly now. To give me over to his god.

By the way: some one did visit me from their church not to long ago but I was not home . They left a little message saying they needed to speak with me it was important. I wonder now.....

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Will someone answer these questions?

by Danni in

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q 1: where does the bible say god's name is jehovah.. q 2: what's an apostate.

q 3: what is the "evil slave vs good slave" i read this ealier sounds more like a movie in hollywood.. q 4: why would any one want to be a slave.

q 5: why not give a child blood to save their lives.

Danni

AlanF. Appreciate it. I am looking up the information you have given me now that's why i did not give a reply to you.

: Q 7: How can a person isolate themselves if you chose to knock on peoples doors outside your religion

I don't understand your question

This i said, because I am told Jehovah's Witnesses isolate themselves from all other people. I was asking how you can isolate yourself if you are indeed trying to socialize with others not of your faith. Such as Knocking at the doors. The question is a bit off.:)

And the one about the cops I was told Jehovah's Witnesses view me as being a worker for Satan because I am a cop. That makes no sense to me since i also protect the rights of Jehovah's witnesses.

The kylishlee person.

Sent a few letters to prove he/she was not sending out hate mail only comments to others (which i have to be honest didn't seem to be hateful at all).

Kylishlee also made some other comments but I will keep those remarks. to myself to see for myself if they are true.

Tell your friend "you know" he doens't have to come back and answer I understand now. I am going to go over the informataion you just put out here. Thank you..

Thanks to all of you. I must apprear to be demanding to all of you. I am not I am really a nice person who just wanted to understand a man. Now i am being taken into a whole new world. I am more interested in religion now than i ever have in the past.

I hope you all don't take offense to me saying. This is all very captivating to me.

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MR.Bowen

by Danni in

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mr.bowen, i just finished reading from your site.

i take it you are a high raking offical in the organization?

it was brave for you to stand up for the "little lambs" who cannot speak for themselves.. i have this question: do you feel like leaving was wise ??

Danni

Mr.Bowen, I just finished reading from your site. I take it you are a high raking offical in the organization? It was brave for you to stand up for the "little lambs" who cannot speak for themselves.

I have this question: Do you feel like leaving was wise ?? after all you could have worked from the inside to gather information such as documents etc that will be needed for edvidence in a court of law.

See Mr. Bowen it's very difficult to prove sexual assualt cases in court these days. I have witness many perpetrators walk out clean because there was not enough evdience to convict them with. I am sure you friend may have said something about that.

With you no longer being there the pervert can now run free and be prehaps be alone with other children. Do you have any idea if the memebers in the church are aware of your reasons for leaving?? If so this just may work out to protect children.

Mr. Bowen if you can get back in there...........No I won't tell you to something dangerous.......Your speaking out is good.

I can understand the church keeping certian matters confidential but the abuse especailly sexual abuse of children is one place they should drawn the line. And besides it would have looked better for all Jehovah's Witnesses to say they remove these types from their religion than keeping them in.

Thankyou for the information and phone number. If there's anything I can do from this side please don't hesitate to let me know.

Danni.

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Will someone answer these questions?

by Danni in

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q 1: where does the bible say god's name is jehovah.. q 2: what's an apostate.

q 3: what is the "evil slave vs good slave" i read this ealier sounds more like a movie in hollywood.. q 4: why would any one want to be a slave.

q 5: why not give a child blood to save their lives.

Danni

teejay: Jesus told parables or illustrations - stories - to make certain points. In a couple of these stories he spoke of an Evil slave. This single slave would represent all the people who opposed Jesus' followers in years to come. The Good slave would represent true Christianss.

ah-ha okayyy that's kind of funny. (not making fun of one's beliefs) I have never read that before. But I don't do a lot of bible reading . Maybe I should.

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Will someone answer these questions?

by Danni in

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q 1: where does the bible say god's name is jehovah.. q 2: what's an apostate.

q 3: what is the "evil slave vs good slave" i read this ealier sounds more like a movie in hollywood.. q 4: why would any one want to be a slave.

q 5: why not give a child blood to save their lives.

Danni

Gumby :not jehovah.
Even the Jehovah's witnesess believe this to be true as explained in their own literature. They however demand that this term jehovah be used in their group or you would be ostrasized if you differed.

If their own literature contridicts their beliefs it makes no sense to ostrasize others who refuse to use the term "Jehovah".

Gumby: If you say you don't believe ALL the things that they teach and you persist in your ways after they have threatened you to stop....you will be shunned from their organisation and by all members and be labled 'AN APOSTATE'

I see..Again this stuff sounds like what movies are made of.